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Old 03-07-2006, 12:53 PM   #1
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Default If you live in New Jersey and are of voting age, please read

There is a bill that is in the NJ state legislature that concerns me as a staff member of Gprime.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bi...00/1327_I1.HTM

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Makes certain operators of interactive computer services and Internet service providers liable to persons injured by false or defamatory messages posted on public forum websites.
Basically if someone posts defamatory messages on Gprime, Gprime can be sued over it. Personally I see this as a bad thing. I would strongly urge all NJ residents of voting age to contact their state legislator and ask them to oppose this bill.
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:39 PM   #2
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Good thing I'm not in Jersey.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:09 PM   #3
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Does the law apply if you aren't in New Jersey?
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:46 PM   #4
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the way the bill is written, if anyone on Gprime posts a defamatory message about someone living in NJ, that person can sue Gprime over it unless we keep a database with everyone's legal name and address.
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Old 03-07-2006, 05:54 PM   #5
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Did you know in texas, it's an offense to defame beef? It's true.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:18 PM   #6
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Did you know in texas, it's an offense to defame beef? It's true.
I am so going to Texas and ranting about beef now.

I'm not in jersey, but how many people here are in New Jersey? Is it members of Gprime that live in Jersey that will sue, or is it celebrities and stuff?
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:23 PM   #7
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Say Joe Johnson lives in NJ. Joe may or may not be a member of Gprime, it makes no difference. SomeRandomPerson on GPrime posts a message saying that Joe likes to have sex with goats. Joe Johnson can then sue Gprime unless we have and turn over SomeRandomPerson's legal name and address.

As far as how many people live there, 8,717,925 (as of 2005) according to wikipedia.

and as for why I seem so concerned with this, think of the society we live in here in the states. People are sue happy. If they come looking to sue someone, even though I do not have any ownership interest in Gprime, I am listed as an administrator of the board as is John. John lives in Canada. I live in the US. A US resident is going to be a much easier target than a Canadian resident/citizen.

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Old 03-07-2006, 06:29 PM   #8
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Say Joe Johnson lives in NJ. Joe may or may not be a member of Gprime, it makes no difference. SomeRandomPerson on GPrime posts a message saying that Joe likes to have sex with goats. Joe Johnson can then sue Gprime unless we have and turn over SomeRandomPerson's legal name and address.
damn.

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and as for why I seem so concerned with this, think of the society we live in here in the states. People are sue happy. If they come looking to sue someone, even though I do not have any ownership interest in Gprime, I am listed as an administrator of the board as is John. John lives in Canada. I live in the US. A US resident is going to be a much easier target than a Canadian resident/citizen.
I wish I could do something about this, but I am under the voting age and I live in PA.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:33 PM   #9
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I better not post a picture of myself wearing the shirt I got from busted tees.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:34 PM   #10
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Say Joe Johnson lives in NJ. Joe may or may not be a member of Gprime, it makes no difference. SomeRandomPerson on GPrime posts a message saying that Joe likes to have sex with goats. Joe Johnson can then sue Gprime unless we have and turn over SomeRandomPerson's legal name and address.

As far as how many people live there, 8,717,925 (as of 2005) according to wikipedia.

and as for why I seem so concerned with this, think of the society we live in here in the states. People are sue happy. If they come looking to sue someone, even though I do not have any ownership interest in Gprime, I am listed as an administrator of the board as is John. John lives in Canada. I live in the US. A US resident is going to be a much easier target than a Canadian resident/citizen.
Is there a way to tell which Gprime mebers live in New Jersey?


Also, how mean do the comments have to be?
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:37 PM   #11
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Is there a way to tell which Gprime mebers live in New Jersey?


Also, how mean do the comments have to be?
I'm guessing anything derogative. So saying "Joe" has stupid hair would count.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:39 PM   #12
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I'm guessing anything derogative. So saying "Joe" has stupid hair would count.
I think we should ban anyone that lives in New Jersey.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:50 PM   #13
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no, thats not it, even if "Joe" wasn't a member of gprime, it wouldn't make any difference.
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Old 03-07-2006, 06:58 PM   #14
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I'm guessing anything derogative. So saying "Joe" has stupid hair would count.
Not necessarily. If someone said that, and then Joe got a court order saying his hair isn't stupid, then that someone has now posted a false statement. This bill covers "false or defamatory messages posted on public forum websites"

Anyone else with me on thinking that our civil judicial system needs a major overhaul?

Another thing that bugs me about this. It doesn't seem to have any provision for a case of someone giving false information. We would be required to collect a name and address from everyone before they would be allowed to post. What happens if they give us fake info? Do they get tracked down and nailed for providing false information, or would we be in trouble for not properly verifying the information?

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Old 03-07-2006, 06:59 PM   #15
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Not necessarily. If someone said that, and then Joe got a court order saying his hair isn't stupid, then that someone has now posted a false statement. This bill covers "false or defamatory messages posted on public forum websites"
Can you find our address from our IP's?
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:02 PM   #16
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some person from NJ named Joe Johnson is probably going to sue us all.
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:03 PM   #17
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some person from NJ named Joe Johnson is probably going to sue us all.
Haha
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:54 PM   #18
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Can you find our address from our IP's?
In general, no. If we had a valid complaint, we could subpeona your internet provider and get the address listed on your account.
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Old 03-07-2006, 07:58 PM   #19
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Let's play it safe here.

Pennsylvania sucks.
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Old 03-07-2006, 08:21 PM   #20
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Let's play it safe here.

Pennsylvania sucks.
Awwww, booo!
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Old 03-07-2006, 08:38 PM   #21
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Joe is a douche.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:47 PM   #22
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I said I wouldn't, but I did.
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:23 PM   #23
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I said I wouldn't, but I did.
I think i'm gonna buy one of those. I like a lot of them. Which should i get...??
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:26 PM   #24
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:51 PM   #25
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In general, no. If we had a valid complaint, we could subpeona your internet provider and get the address listed on your account.
So I'm guessing you would to not get sued.
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