Nintendo Revolution

Originally Posted by mentalskater

jesus christ you ****ing suck. you think that because the ps3 has higher specs, that all the generic games that come out for it will be automatically better. did you not know that it is usually a story and and good gameplay that drives a game to greatness. but not anymore, it is about how cool it looks. no one likes games with depth anymore. it is all no longer original. the only originality has become the amount of polygons you can force into a single game. and if you plan on playing a game that has nothing going for it besides graphics, you MY FRIEND, have a sorry gaming life.

Wow just wow. Have you read anything I said? As I said, Nintendo happens to be in the lead in the decline of gaming creativity and originality. More power allows more depth and more realism. I don't care if I have the same polygon count as the Revolution gets on my next gen system of choice, as long as I have massive amounts of interactive items and people that make the game seem like the real world, I want to feel like a part the game. I bet that my copy of FFVII in my PS2 right now begs to differ that I go only by graphics. Also, note that my xbox is used mainly for playing SNES, Master System, Gameboy/advanced, and NES ROMs. As for the 'gaming life' I have no idea what you mean by that so I'll just leave that alone.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

also if you tell me exactly what you have in your machine, then you can just say that it cost 1200. anyone can say that. i can say i have a multi million dollar house, and all i would have to do is to stick with that story until you believe it.

3.0GHz P4 64 bit, 2GB DDR2 RAM, 2 SLI'ed 6800's (came in package deal with mother board from tiger direct), 80GB SATA 7400 RPM HDD, Coolmaster case that was on sale for $40 (with powersupply), $70 19 inch crt monitor, 2 speaker set, standard keyboard, standard 2 button mouse with wheel.
I have copies of my newegg and tiger direct reciepts if you want them.
of course you are wrong about frame rates, about 90% of the xbox 360s games are going to have frame rates around 30. i will get the article to prove it. just wait until my next post.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

i also believe that 90% is a false number you made up, like i did above , what is usually meant by that number is majority. but even with this number, the amount of damaged systems are catastrophic if they sell millions of consoles.
basically, for every million units,, 100,000 units are effed up. that is a big deal. and for some stupid reason, the warranty ran out shortly before most had their problems, funny that. and i shouldnt have to replace something that is part of a 300 dollar piece of shat.

It was an approximation, but you knew of course that DSes were recalled in Japan due to pixel problems as well right? Of course you knew that.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

and i think there were few good third party games for any system, the only ones i have liked were the capcom ones. they are the only ones that deserve any attention. and if you think third parties is what makes a system strive, you are right, but third parties are usually just as much spec *****es as you seem to be.

Playstation 2 had large support from Square-Enix and various other strong names. XBox had strong support from Bethesda, the company that makes one of the most popular gaming series' ever, Elder Scrolls. All of Nintendo's BIG titles were first party pretty much. Having large third party support keeps your console's lineup fresh and new.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

i was saying that casual gamers are the only reason for sony's continued existence.

And aren't a large portion of gamers 'casual gamers'?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

like i said before, graphics only propel games because of the casual gamers. they only want pretty, not a game that takes to much intelligence to beat.

I guess you've never played my personal favorite game for the PS2, Front Mission 4. It combines decent (not great) graphics, fun, innovation, and difficulty.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

good graphics are not necessarily better quality. if you had a brain then maybe you could say otherwise. but it is quite obvious that games only depend on the graphics. if the graphics are horrible but the gameplay is great, it will be overlooked by the majority of gamers. that is same reason sega makes only games now. because everyone wanted better graphics, not better gameplay.

I agree with you on that, and I always say that, look in other posts of mine. What makes a game is a combination of beauty, re/playability, originality, and innovation. I still have trouble connecting with a game and feeling like I'm part of it when its a 10x10 pixel black mage on my gameboy. I love games that are pleasing to the eyes, but if it doesn't have any depth I hate it. Note: I threw away Halo when I got it with my XBox, and put Morrowwind, as it feels like you're in a real world, and everything you do has effects on your life.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

someone born today can play nes games if they wanted to. and yes i played snes games first but i was able to enjoy nes when my parents got it from my uncle. which was shortly after.

There is a stigma that comes with being around when a game company is in its glory days, and I feel those were Nintendo's. They were original and at the time amazing in every way, from the look to the feel.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

i said only quality third party is capcom, and i dont know if they said anything but im sure they will help out nintendo for a long while.

They signed on to help Sony and Nintendo.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

and of course you call me a fanboy, im not really a fanboy. i just hate sony and their communistic style of controlling the gaming industry. you might not think so but that is you opinion. since you call me a fanboy, ill call you a spec nerd, or a casual gamer that thinks he is hardcore. just know that me telling you to take your biased ass back to the evil sony conglomerate.

Back to the Sony conglomerate? as in:
Definition: A corporation made up of a number of different companies that operate in diversified fields.
Though not used in the right syntax, nice try. Sony's communistic style of controlling the gaming industry? Are you joking? Atleast they don't push a new version of the same hardware on little kids every 3 months. Gameboy advanced, GB:A SP, GB Micro, wheres the end? You can call me a spec nerd but I'll take it as a compliment, and know that what you meant to say is that I actually research and make an informed purchase. Also, who draws the line between what is hardcore and what is casual gaming? How have I been biased? If Nintendo announces they're getting the Front Mission and complete Final Fantasy series, including FFVII remake, I will buy it, but as long as Sony has support of the company that I feel pushes the envelope on both graphics and gameplay, Square, I will buy their system.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

if you want to continue fighting with me, i suggest getting a life and play some real games. the only good games are on nintendo systems and once you find that out, you will be enlightened. now leave me be so that i may find more info about the 360 frame rate.

And you said me calling you a fanboy was uncalled for? I'm sorry, I don't like Metroid, Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, Smash Brothers Melee or any of those, I got my Gamecube for a real zelda game, which has yet to be released, and who knows, at this rate it may be postponed and just put onto Revolution. Waste of my money and time. Take your time finding out that a 3x3.2GHz-Dual core-64bit proc system can out perform a dual 1.6GHz 32 bit setup.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

in reply to the last post:
get re4, metroid prime echoes, metroid prime one, mario sunshine, wind waker, wave race, super monkey ball (all of them), eternal darkness, both pikmin games, paper mario, ikaruga, mario tennis, f zero, harvest moon a wonderful life, stars wars rogue leader: rogue squadron, resident evil (remake), tales of symphonia, baten kaitos, star fox adventures, metal gear solid twin snakes, the legend of zelda: four swords, animal crossing, final fantasy:crystal chronicles, and bomberman generation.

all of these games are exclusives for the gamecube, for now, the re4 is going to ps2 but it will be watered down of course. but i can here you now " but the graphics suck!!!" no they dont, you are just a dumbass, they dont suck, at least medium quality to great brilliant quality. and the gameplay of each of these games kicks the ass of every other game in existence. you may say otherwise, but if you do, then you must a casual that only plays first person shooters and gta games.

Oh boy, what a set of hits. Tales of symphonia is one of the worst RPGs I have ever played entirely cookie cutter... Four swords is lame, why do I need to have a gameboy to play? Same with crystal chronicles, and oh boy.....bomberman! Same as it has been for the last 6 years. Though it may have a few titles that sold well (doesn't mean they played well, you said it yourself) their showing in this generation has been weak over all.

I'm not a graphics who-re. I'm a balance who-re. You give me decent gameplay along with graphics, along with originality and I'm one happy cat.

Also, have you read my article in the general gaming section? I make it quite clear I don't think any system is better than any other. They all have their strong points, their weak points (though some more than others), and their target audiences. If you were to judge the systems it would have to be which system appealed with the widest audience. I'm goin to bed, 4am here, peace. We can continue this tomorrow. I honestly want you to see where I'm comming from because I really don't think you're getting it.

Nintendo is in the lead in the decline of oringinality? What ****ing games have you been playing? Original Square-Enix RPGs where a teenager and his group of friends save the world? Games with extremely original and inventive battle systems -- FF6,7,8,9,10,X2 - ? Similar stories - FF6, 7??? Doesn't sound too original to me, but then again, you've already proven your lack of intelligence, so I should've known that you'd contractict yourself in this manner

You confess your penchant for interactive games and yet one of your favorite games is FF7 -- a game that features absolutely no interaction at all!!?!? I find that very interesting...

Receipt? Nothing photoshop can't handle...

And 30fps is supposed to be impressive?!?! Most PS2 games run at 60fps and this is supposed to be Microsoft's "next-gen" console? 30fps is horrible -- it wouldn't be bad if the games actually looked good, but they totally don't. They should just make the games less pretty and make them all run at 60fps. We don't need games like Gears of War - which does feature some amazing visuals if you're into plastic-looking character models and unrealistic lighting effects - that run at 15-20 fps.

Several PSP's were recalled for the same reason...

Sorry buddy but Square-Enix is no longer a meaninful third-party --- but you probably enjoy mindless garbage like FFX2 and Front Mission 4, so drones like you might still like them. I do agree that having solid third-party support can contribute quite a bit to a console's lineup, but Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, can actually make good first-party games - and that's enough to carry its console. Microsoft and Sony are the opposite -- good third party games, ****ty first-party games.


And your point is?? Casual gamers dont know a good game when they see one, wait yes they do, it has to be pretty... no other requirements...

Sorry but that game sucks. Front Mission 3 was better - but not by much. You can't say that I'm alone on that -- very few reviewers actually thought that game was as fun as you seem to think it is - and the opinions of hundreds of gaming editors > yours.

And one more thing -- it does not have decent graphics -- they're mediocre. The colors are drab, the textures are hideous, the draw-distance is unimpressive, the environments are featureless...I could go on, but I will admit that the wanzers do feature some pretty decent animation....

Morrowind does not have good graphics - and why would you be playing the watered-down **** port on the Xbox when you have this "super PC"? The visuals in Morrowind are plain, the NPC character models are reused often, the framerate chugs quite a bit -- especially in the GOTY edition -- and even entire structures are resused in the game ad nauseum.
By the way your little "everything you do has effects on your life" comment is hilariously ignorant --- Morrowind is NOTHING like real life. In Morrowind, you can fight can after can and become more powerful than any of the guards in their respective towns; also, killing random people doesn't seem to have much of an effect on your own life.

Again with the FF7 remake?!?! You sure do love originality...


The Xbox 360's specs don't really mean much of anything - so far most of the games they've shown appeared to be less than impressive. And if you want to play the consoles impressive upcoming library, which consists of two genres - racing and FPS - than go right ahead...because that wouldn't be a waste of time.

The Twilight Princess is scheduled to release this year, so it seems highly unlikely that it will be postoned, scrapped, and coded up on the Revolution -- Nintendo isn't RARE you know.

I agree that Tales of Symphonia is a bit of a cookie-cutter RPG -- I just put it on that list because it is critically acclaimed -- but FF7 is pretty much a carbon copy of FF6 (similar characters, similar story, similar battle system) and is about as cookie-cutter as an RPG can be.

Why do you need Xbox live to have fun playing on Microsoft's con sole? Why do you need to spend thousands of dollars to play crappy RPGs and FPS on your NASA-built computer? Why do you need to buy a modem to play a piece of **** like FF11? ??

The funny thing about their supposed "weak showing" is that Nintendo recieved GOTY awards for both Metroid Prime and the Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker in 2002 and 2003 -- but you're right that's pretty unimpressive....

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Nintendo is in the lead in the decline of oringinality? What ****ing games have you been playing? Original Square-Enix RPGs where a teenager and his group of friends save the world? Games with extremely original and inventive battle systems -- FF6,7,8,9,10,X2 - ? Similar stories - FF6, 7??? Doesn't sound too original to me, but then again, you've already proven your lack of intelligence, so I should've known that you'd contractict yourself in this manner

I have proved my lack of intelligence? You ignore complete parts of my arguement inorder to prove points which have nothing to do with anything previously discussed.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

You confess your penchant for interactive games and yet one of your favorite games is FF7 -- a game that features absolutely no interaction at all!!?!? I find that very interesting...

And I also said that Elderscrolls is my favorite series. Remember that? FFVII was used rather to prove that I'm not a graphics freak. No interactivity? There is tons of content and characters that you can relate to.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Receipt? Nothing photoshop can't handle...

Why don't you just look up the parts your self, keep in mind smart shopping and you can get good deals.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

And 30fps is supposed to be impressive?!?! Most PS2 games run at 60fps and this is supposed to be Microsoft's "next-gen" console? 30fps is horrible -- it wouldn't be bad if the games actually looked good, but they totally don't. They should just make the games less pretty and make them all run at 60fps. We don't need games like Gears of War - which does feature some amazing visuals if you're into plastic-looking character models and unrealistic lighting effects - that run at 15-20 fps.

Did you not read anything I wrote?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Several PSP's were recalled for the same reason...

And? So where DS's in Japan.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Sorry buddy but Square-Enix is no longer a meaninful third-party --- but you probably enjoy mindless garbage like FFX2 and Front Mission 4, so drones like you might still like them. I do agree that having solid third-party support can contribute quite a bit to a console's lineup, but Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, can actually make good first-party games - and that's enough to carry its console. Microsoft and Sony are the opposite -- good third party games, ****ty first-party games.

You're right, the company that Nintendo has been begging to become a dedicated third party for them. No, I didn't like X2, it lacked depth and storyline, I like FM4 because it is fun and original, but you won't even acknowledge that I said that. Those 'good' third party games are on the decline both in numbers and in originality. Metroid is original? Please.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

And your point is?? Casual gamers dont know a good game when they see one, wait yes they do, it has to be pretty... no other requirements...

And your point is? I said several times that graphics are only part of a balance that must be achieved.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Sorry but that game sucks. Front Mission 3 was better - but not by much. You can't say that I'm alone on that -- very few reviewers actually thought that game was as fun as you seem to think it is - and the opinions of hundreds of gaming editors > yours.

Yes, because I judge what is a good game by the oppinions of editors, sorry, I have my own taste in games and I can see past the fact that FM4 had poor graphics and a steep learning curve. Front Mission 3 was better than FM4, no one denies that, but FM4 is a more recent example.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

And one more thing -- it does not have decent graphics -- they're mediocre. The colors are drab, the textures are hideous, the draw-distance is unimpressive, the environments are featureless...I could go on, but I will admit that the wanzers do feature some pretty decent animation....

As I said, decent graphics but nothing ground breaking.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Morrowind does not have good graphics - and why would you be playing the watered-down **** port on the Xbox when you have this "super PC"? The visuals in Morrowind are plain, the NPC character models are reused often, the framerate chugs quite a bit -- especially in the GOTY edition -- and even entire structures are resused in the game ad nauseum.
By the way your little "everything you do has effects on your life" comment is hilariously ignorant --- Morrowind is NOTHING like real life. In Morrowind, you can fight can after can and become more powerful than any of the guards in their respective towns; also, killing random people doesn't seem to have much of an effect on your own life.

Unless you ever want to buy items right? Again, notice that a game I enjoy doesn't have good graphics, going against your entire 'graphics who-re' strategy you've taken. Give me a break, you're pathetic.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Again with the FF7 remake?!?! You sure do love originality...

I thought you were big on Games of the year meaning everything?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

The Xbox 360's specs don't really mean much of anything - so far most of the games they've shown appeared to be less than impressive. And if you want to play the consoles impressive upcoming library, which consists of two genres - racing and FPS - than go right ahead...because that wouldn't be a waste of time.

Haven't you got the idea that I actually think that no next generation console will be good? It's more of a matter of finding the console that will suck the least. And aren't games themselves meant to be a waste of time?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

The Twilight Princess is scheduled to release this year, so it seems highly unlikely that it will be postoned, scrapped, and coded up on the Revolution -- Nintendo isn't RARE you know.

Clearly that was sarcastic.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

I agree that Tales of Symphonia is a bit of a cookie-cutter RPG -- I just put it on that list because it is critically acclaimed -- but FF7 is pretty much a carbon copy of FF6 (similar characters, similar story, similar battle system) and is about as cookie-cutter as an RPG can be.

FFVII may be 'cookie cutter' but it has a great plot, and I doubt that you've ever thought about it further than reading the text. I bet you don't even know what "Calamity from the sky" and "Geostigma" are right? They're only mentioned once or twice. How about how Cloud got his memories and Zack's memories mixed up?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

Why do you need Xbox live to have fun playing on Microsoft's con sole? Why do you need to spend thousands of dollars to play crappy RPGs and FPS on your NASA-built computer? Why do you need to buy a modem to play a piece of **** like FF11? ??

Wow....just wow. I don't use XBox live which you would know if you've read any of my other posts. I use xlink Kai....mostly to avoid peole...like you. NASA-Built computer? Where the hell did that come from?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

The funny thing about their supposed "weak showing" is that Nintendo recieved GOTY awards for both Metroid Prime and the Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker in 2002 and 2003 -- but you're right that's pretty unimpressive....

[SARCASM]You're right, two games is enough to carry a console to greatness.[/SARCASM]

Originally Posted by mentalskater

I see where you are coming from, and it is a pretty **** place to be...

Apparently you don't as you continue to make obscure claims. If you want to see my oppinion, go into the General game discussion and see the 'actual answer to which console is best'. You'll notice that I say that all consoles have both their strong points and weak points (though you failed to address that in your reply, coincidence?) and different target audiences. If I wanted my kids to play games, I would give them a Gamecube, I know that it has lots of games that are safe for kids of all ages, see? Gamecube is aimed for a younger audience on the whole. Sure it has RE4, but beyond that there isn't many extremely violent games. Once you read my other post you may respond. Until then sit down and shut up.

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by mentalskater

to some of your coments earlier, whoever it was. sales mean nothing, only to the survival of a company. it is funny because games like charlie and the choclate factory and many other horrible games sold more then quality quality games like resident evil 4 and supposedly halo 2. im not 100% about that but the existence of companies are now based off of casual gamers that are younger than ten. and wasnt this the thread for the nintendo revolution...hmmm, interesting.

teraflops are not really important unless the game designers actually plan to put it all to use. proof that a system with lower capabilities can have better looking games: metroid prime, re4, metroid prime2 (there are others but i got to look it up) over all xbox games (fable, and halo 2 and the other crap too). and you cant compare consoles to computers because all games on comp look like crap unless you plan on laying down 4 grand for a medium good one. did you know that ps3 is supposed to be $500 with option of $200 for a warranty. too damn expensive. the revolution plans to appeal to people that cant afford selling their house for gaming. the way to keep prices down is to use use less than new technology. the revolution is bound to have more quality games then the other too. it will most likely take years more for a developer to create a game for the 360 and ps3. and really, how realistic do you need to get before all the graphics look the same. you may notice subtle differences but it is not worth having if you are going to run at only 30 frame rate.

the new systems are going to run at lower frame rates, it just is. the more graohically powerful a game is, thelower the frame rate. that just means the revolution is going to have more fluid visuals than the other two.

proove me wrong so i can argue some more.

You're a moron. Maybe if we were playing newer games on the older technology. Better graphics don't mean slower framerates for a newer generation of technology unless you're still running on mediocre hardware such as the Revolutions system specs. The PS3 and Xbox360 will be capable of running games with quality graphics and very fluid framerates. I doubt you ering that's the fastest human eyes can see. Doom3 on Xbox runs at 30fps but on a decent computer it runs twice as fast. Good gaming pcs don't cost 4000-5000$. The only ones that do are Pentium X equipped systems with dual 7800 GTXs, as foul play knows.

yes i am a moron, it seems... for it seems you have not seen all the **** about xbox 360 going to have an average of 30 fps. and with it's amazing graphics, supposedly, the higher the framerate, the smoother it looks. no jerky movement, the human eye supposedly can see up to 60 frames per second. so if you were smart, you would know that games at the next gen level should run at 60fps. at least that way it will look smooth, so the "eye candy" doesnt become "eye poop". and yeah, foulplay say anything you want about that, it just means you linger on the stupidest things. im not saying that ps3 wont have good frame rates, but if they do, there cisual appearance will suffer slightly. and even with the low revolution specs, it does not mean substantially lower framerates.

foulplay must be the moron. he said interactivity has to do with being able to relate to characters. that is bull, interactivity has to do with how much of the game environment is usuable in some way, like in re4 you can actually jump off of roofs, over fences, and out of windows. you seem to not know what you are talking about. either that or you are too stupid to use know the difference between interactivity and believable characters.

front mission 4 is a piece of ****. i said that already and if you like that game, it just prooves you horrible taste in games. i said everything there in sarcasm, especially the part about the wanzers having decent animation, further proving your lack of intelligence.

something that had no sarcasm was the part about the twilight princess not being scrapped and remade for revolution. it is not RARE (the stupid developer that moved the game Kameo back to xbox 360 from the xbox and from the n64) more stupidity is emanating from you.

Originally Posted by foulplay

And? So where DS's in Japan.

Originally Posted by foulplay

It was an approximation, but you knew of course that DSes were recalled in Japan due to pixel problems as well right? Of course you knew that.

well, you are stupid, you really had to say it twice,****ing idiot. and the second quote has nothing to do with what you replyed to. which was this.

Originally Posted by me

i also believe that 90% is a false number you made up, like i did above , what is usually meant by that number is majority. but even with this number, the amount of damaged systems are catastrophic if they sell millions of consoles.

this was talking about ps2 or course.

lcd screen will inevitably have the occasional dead pixel, and you cant complain about the ds having the exact same problem psp had. i think you are even stupider because you said "And?" further proving you bias.

of course you fail to realize that you only get on egame of the year per year, so i just named the two games that have gotten it so far, and of course you then say, "oh only two games that are good" well that makes you really stupid because wow got game of the year for one. and that automatically forces the other years to be divided between ps2 and xbox meaning a top of three for one system and that would truly mean that the other system would be the worst of the three. nintendo is at least second.

you say that nintendo targets only younger kids, no they don't they want to get anyone to play their systems and games. if you didnt notice, most GC games are rated T. and there are a good amount of M rated games. there are a lot of E games but those are usually too hard for people at that young of an age. so you are really getting your facts wrong, not just me.

cookie cutter ff7 is, and because of that, it really cant have a great plot. here is the whole thing, some random guy with random "hot girls", buff warrior guy, old but skilled warrior, some beast man thing go and try to save the world from some crazed maniac. some plot... the same as every game nowadays. calamity in the sky=fancy word for giant meteor that will blow everything to hell. geostigma= dont remember but i think it was also a fancy way or easy way to say something meaningless. zack and cloud mixed up their memories because cloud was brainwashed to believe that. and if that isn't right, it was because i havent played it for a while.

and if you think revolution will suck the most, that is your opinion, but basing it entirely on specs is meaningless and you're not going to make the right decision.

then why do you need xkai to have fun with you xbox, i dont care if that is what you use, it is basically the same concept.

and finally, how is more violent mean more mature. if you had a brain, you would know that violent games tend to appeal to younger people. why? because violence is cool to kids, and to immature adults.

i didnt just say you were a graphic who-re, but i also said you were a spec who-re, and seeing how you cant disprove that, i say you should leave this forum and every other nintendo forum alone you biased piece of ****. you should be the one to sit down and shut up unless you plan to say something constructive about nintendo in the NINTENDO FORUM!!!

if you want to continue this argument, then go find someone that cares... i tire of this meaningless argument because you know that this will be completely opinion based and we will get no where. you can talk about specs but i suggest you talk about that in the respective forum. nintendo only should be in here, nothing else. so leave me be or ill have to make you eat all of your words.

Edit: and about metroid not being original, how so? it was the first actual outer space game to ever exist. the only thing that comes close as in main character, megaman but it is not really that close. mace griffon bounty hunter has a similar idea but of course that came after metroid. so you cant say metroid is not original.

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by mentalskater

yes i am a moron, it seems... for it seems you have not seen all the **** about xbox 360 going to have an average of 30 fps. and with it's amazing graphics, supposedly, the higher the framerate, the smoother it looks. no jerky movement, the human eye supposedly can see up to 60 frames per second. so if you were smart, you would know that games at the next gen level should run at 60fps. at least that way it will look smooth, so the "eye candy" doesnt become "eye poop". and yeah, foulplay say anything you want about that, it just means you linger on the stupidest things. im not saying that ps3 wont have good frame rates, but if they do, there cisual appearance will suffer slightly. and even with the low revolution specs, it does not mean substantially lower framerates.

foulplay must be the moron. he said interactivity has to do with being able to relate to characters. that is bull, interactivity has to do with how much of the game environment is usuable in some way, like in re4 you can actually jump off of roofs, over fences, and out of windows. you seem to not know what you are talking about. either that or you are too stupid to use know the difference between interactivity and believable characters.

front mission 4 is a piece of ****. i said that already and if you like that game, it just prooves you horrible taste in games. i said everything there in sarcasm, especially the part about the wanzers having decent animation, further proving your lack of intelligence.

something that had no sarcasm was the part about the twilight princess not being scrapped and remade for revolution. it is not RARE (the stupid developer that moved the game Kameo back to xbox 360 from the xbox and from the n64) more stupidity is emanating from you.
well, you are stupid, you really had to say it twice,****ing idiot. and the second quote has nothing to do with what you replyed to. which was this.

this was talking about ps2 or course.

lcd screen will inevitably have the occasional dead pixel, and you cant complain about the ds having the exact same problem psp had. i think you are even stupider because you said "And?" further proving you bias.

of course you fail to realize that you only get on egame of the year per year, so i just named the two games that have gotten it so far, and of course you then say, "oh only two games that are good" well that makes you really stupid because wow got game of the year for one. and that automatically forces the other years to be divided between ps2 and xbox meaning a top of three for one system and that would truly mean that the other system would be the worst of the three. nintendo is at least second.

you say that nintendo targets only younger kids, no they don't they want to get anyone to play their systems and games. if you didnt notice, most GC games are rated T. and there are a good amount of M rated games. there are a lot of E games but those are usually too hard for people at that young of an age. so you are really getting your facts wrong, not just me.

cookie cutter ff7 is, and because of that, it really cant have a great plot. here is the whole thing, some random guy with random "hot girls", buff warrior guy, old but skilled warrior, some beast man thing go and try to save the world from some crazed maniac. some plot... the same as every game nowadays. calamity in the sky=fancy word for giant meteor that will blow everything to hell. geostigma= dont remember but i think it was also a fancy way or easy way to say something meaningless. zack and cloud mixed up their memories because cloud was brainwashed to believe that. and if that isn't right, it was because i havent played it for a while.

and if you think revolution will suck the most, that is your opinion, but basing it entirely on specs is meaningless and you're not going to make the right decision.

then why do you need xkai to have fun with you xbox, i dont care if that is what you use, it is basically the same concept.

and finally, how is more violent mean more mature. if you had a brain, you would know that violent games tend to appeal to younger people. why? because violence is cool to kids, and to immature adults.

i didnt just say you were a graphic who-re, but i also said you were a spec who-re, and seeing how you cant disprove that, i say you should leave this forum and every other nintendo forum alone you biased piece of ****. you should be the one to sit down and shut up unless you plan to say something constructive about nintendo in the NINTENDO FORUM!!!

if you want to continue this argument, then go find someone that cares... i tire of this meaningless argument because you know that this will be completely opinion based and we will get no where. you can talk about specs but i suggest you talk about that in the respective forum. nintendo only should be in here, nothing else. so leave me be or ill have to make you eat all of your words.

Edit: and about metroid not being original, how so? it was the first actual outer space game to ever exist. the only thing that comes close as in main character, megaman but it is not really that close. mace griffon bounty hunter has a similar idea but of course that came after metroid. so you cant say metroid is not original.

First off, at E3 Sega stated that Full Auto, an Xbox360 titile would have a "locked" framerate of 60 frames per second, meaning it would never drop below 60 frames per second.

The Resident Evil 4 environment is interactive? Since when has being able to jump off a roof been interactive? True interactivity is being able to have some effect every object in the game. Games like Half-Life2, not Resident Evil 4.

Also, tell me Mental Skater, is Space Invader, released in 1978, is not an "actual outer space game" ?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

yes i am a moron, it seems... for it seems you have not seen all the **** about xbox 360 going to have an average of 30 fps. and with it's amazing graphics, supposedly, the higher the framerate, the smoother it looks. no jerky movement, the human eye supposedly can see up to 60 frames per second. so if you were smart, you would know that games at the next gen level should run at 60fps. at least that way it will look smooth, so the "eye candy" doesnt become "eye poop". and yeah, foulplay say anything you want about that, it just means you linger on the stupidest things. im not saying that ps3 wont have good frame rates, but if they do, there cisual appearance will suffer slightly. and even with the low revolution specs, it does not mean substantially lower framerates.

Yes, I'm sure x360, the system that has proved time and time again to have the largest video bandwidth, will only run at 30FPS. I'll tell you what, if you can post one reliable source that says that, I will shut up, but you can't.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

foulplay must be the moron. he said interactivity has to do with being able to relate to characters. that is bull, interactivity has to do with how much of the game environment is usuable in some way, like in re4 you can actually jump off of roofs, over fences, and out of windows. you seem to not know what you are talking about. either that or you are too stupid to use know the difference between interactivity and believable characters.

You really are ignorant and refuse to read my entire posts aren't you? I want a game that is fluid both in interactivity, and in actual content, I've said this a hundred times.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

front mission 4 is a piece of ****. i said that already and if you like that game, it just prooves you horrible taste in games. i said everything there in sarcasm, especially the part about the wanzers having decent animation, further proving your lack of intelligence.

Apparently you have a extreme bias against Sony, and all of it's games. Front Mission 4 has become a cult classic, same as Final Fantasy Tactics. Both were reviewed to be horrible but have fans that still play to this day, and experiment with the game.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

something that had no sarcasm was the part about the twilight princess not being scrapped and remade for revolution. it is not RARE (the stupid developer that moved the game Kameo back to xbox 360 from the xbox and from the n64) more stupidity is emanating from you.
well, you are stupid, you really had to say it twice,****ing idiot. and the second quote has nothing to do with what you replyed to. which was this.

Note that I said me saying who knowing if it will be released was sarcastic, not your comment. Twilight Princess has been delayed repeatedly.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

this was talking about ps2 or course.

What was? You need to quote me so we all know what you're addressing.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

lcd screen will inevitably have the occasional dead pixel, and you cant complain about the ds having the exact same problem psp had. i think you are even stupider because you said "And?" further proving you bias.

Nintendo had the same problem in Japan as the PSP had in the US. Do you not understand that? How is that proving I am biased? Did I go to Japan and screw up DS's? No. It happened and you act like the PSP problems are much more important and on a broader scale, which they weren't. You just didn't hear about problems from Japan.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

of course you fail to realize that you only get on egame of the year per year, so i just named the two games that have gotten it so far, and of course you then say, "oh only two games that are good" well that makes you really stupid because wow got game of the year for one. and that automatically forces the other years to be divided between ps2 and xbox meaning a top of three for one system and that would truly mean that the other system would be the worst of the three. nintendo is at least second.

And who game them game of the year? Gamepro? Who cares what game critics say, play games and see if you like them. If you find quality games that weren't marked high more power to you. I suppose you've never heard of the phrase 'cult classic'. Think about movies like Donnie Darko, reviewed horrible then suddenly it was flying off store shelves so fast it couldn't be controlled. Also, any magazine that rates Halo/2 high is dead in my book.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

you say that nintendo targets only younger kids, no they don't they want to get anyone to play their systems and games. if you didnt notice, most GC games are rated T. and there are a good amount of M rated games. there are a lot of E games but those are usually too hard for people at that young of an age. so you are really getting your facts wrong, not just me.

Read it again, I said their main target audience is kids, not their entire audience. Why would they not want to get anyone to play their systems or games, that is just bad marketing.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

cookie cutter ff7 is, and because of that, it really cant have a great plot. here is the whole thing, some random guy with random "hot girls", buff warrior guy, old but skilled warrior, some beast man thing go and try to save the world from some crazed maniac. some plot... the same as every game nowadays. calamity in the sky=fancy word for giant meteor that will blow everything to hell. geostigma= dont remember but i think it was also a fancy way or easy way to say something meaningless. zack and cloud mixed up their memories because cloud was brainwashed to believe that. and if that isn't right, it was because i havent played it for a while.

Cookie cutter character generalizations have nothing to do with the actual depth of the plot. Calamity in the sky refers to Jenova as she landed on earth and created the northern crater, geostigma is the disease that Jenova spread amoung the ancients to turn them into the monsters that roam the earth, Zack and Cloud were both bombarded with mako energy during Hojo's experiments after they were wounded by Sephiroth, Zacks body took it and Cloud's couldn't as he was weak at the time, Zack told cloud his life story basically when Cloud was unconsious and then shinra soldiers found them and killed Zack, and Zack's memories became Cloud's, then when he met Tifa by the train in sector 7 she told him about their childhood and his real memories were then part of him as well.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

and if you think revolution will suck the most, that is your opinion, but basing it entirely on specs is meaningless and you're not going to make the right decision.

I never said the revolution would suck the most, infact I'm holding off on buying a console until they've all been out for a while, I want to see how each performs and their game libraries before I make a decision.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

then why do you need xkai to have fun with you xbox, i dont care if that is what you use, it is basically the same concept.

Uh....you know that it is free right?

Originally Posted by mentalskater

and finally, how is more violent mean more mature. if you had a brain, you would know that violent games tend to appeal to younger people. why? because violence is cool to kids, and to immature adults.

Violent games shouldn't be played by young players, and once the ESRB is properly enforced (will be soon with the current GTA scandal) games will stay in the hands of people who should be playing them. It isn't just violence that makes a game meant for mature audiences, its also language, and how the violence is done. Killing a zombie is no where near as bad as beating a police officer to death with a sex toy.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

i didnt just say you were a graphic who-re, but i also said you were a spec who-re, and seeing how you cant disprove that, i say you should leave this forum and every other nintendo forum alone you biased piece of ****. you should be the one to sit down and shut up unless you plan to say something constructive about nintendo in the NINTENDO FORUM!!!

Honestly, read my posts before you claim ludicris things. Once again, as I have said in my last two posts, I don't think that any console is really better at this point, it is too early to make a call. I have said very few things bad about Nintendo in my entire stay here, so you can stop saying I'm biased.

Originally Posted by mentalskater

if you want to continue this argument, then go find someone that cares... i tire of this meaningless argument because you know that this will be completely opinion based and we will get no where. you can talk about specs but i suggest you talk about that in the respective forum. nintendo only should be in here, nothing else. so leave me be or ill have to make you eat all of your words.

I agree that it is completely opinion based on one front, but you obviously care since you have taken the time to post repeatedly. And for the third time, specs can only help a system so far, where systems shine is in great games (in large quantities) that appeal to large audiences of gamers. Once again, read my article in general gaming and you will see that I believe that no system is really better than any other at this point in time.

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by foulplay

Violent games shouldn't be played by young players, and once the ESRB is properly enforced (will be soon with the current GTA scandal) games will stay in the hands of people who should be playing them. It isn't just violence that makes a game meant for mature audiences, its also language, and how the violence is done. Killing a zombie is no where near as bad as beating a police officer to death with a sex toy.

Hot coffee mod anyone?

Originally Posted by Heyyou27

Hot coffee mod anyone?

Indeed. No idea why it is such a big deal but oh well, let them cry.

[Heyyou27]

Only 5 days and 5 hours until Nvidia unveils "The power of 3".

Originally Posted by Heyyou27

Only 5 days and 5 hours until Nvidia unveils "The power of 3".

Does that mean 3 video cards? Damnit my motherboard is gonna be useless now.

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by foulplay

Does that mean 3 video cards? Damnit my motherboard is gonna be useless now.

Yes that means 3 videocards. TIME TO UPGRADE AGAIN!

[God]

Originally Posted by Heyyou27

Yes that means 3 videocards. TIME TO UPGRADE AGAIN!

Hehe, I have been saving up for that baby for a LONG time.

[Drunken_Shinobi]

Originally Posted by Heyyou27

Yes that means 3 videocards. TIME TO UPGRADE AGAIN!

There's the invention of dual video cards....but now tri-video cards??? Now this is kind of getting out of hand.

First off, at E3 Sega stated that Full Auto, an Xbox360 titile would have a
"locked" framerate of 60 frames per second, meaning it would never
drop
below 60 frames per second.

The Resident Evil 4 environment is interactive? Since when has being able
to jump off a roof been interactive? True interactivity is being able to
have some effect every object in the game. Games like Half-Life2, not
Resident Evil 4.

But why does Full Auto only look marginally better than most Xbox games? It
doesn’t matter what a developer says because when it comes to framerate
consistency, it’s rarely ever true. Expect Full Auto to chug like just about
every major Xbox game – save for Ninja Gaiden.

Yeah that damn Resident Evil 4…and that damn Gamecube with its 400mhz
processor…why can’t it be more like Half Life 2 – a game that requires a
relatively high-end PC for graphics that are only slighter sharper than
those of Resident Evil 4…a bit blockier…but with tons more interactivity…

And how many people actually want to interact with every object in the game?
Alas that’s the most exciting part of Half Life 2….which is a damn shame.

-------------------------------------------------

Yes, I'm sure x360, the system that has proved time and time again to have
the largest video bandwidth, will only run at 30FPS. I'll tell you what, if
you can post one reliable source that says that, I will shut up, but you
can't.

How has that really been proven? Were there any actual Xbox 360 consoles
available at E3? Nobody has proven anything about the Xbox 360, so just wait
until it comes out. Remember, the launch games for the original Xbox looked
– and played – much worse than the E3 demos did so the same could very well
happen to the 360 games…

The thing is, the Xbox 360 is capable of making games run smoothly at Xbox
360, but those games are the worse looking games like that one zombie game
and FFXI. Developers seem to be pushing the console to its (unimpressive)
limits with games like Gears of War (the build at E3 only ran at 15-20fps)
and Elder Scrolls 4 – a game that will actually look worse than its PC
counterpart.

I’m not saying the final code will have framerate inconsistencies, but with
only a few more months to go before launch, it seems highly unlikely that
they’ll [Microsoft Game Studios] be able to fix that because their track
record dictates it.

Just go to Gamespot.com and read what they thought of the underwhelming Xbox
360 demos

You really are ignorant and refuse to read my entire posts aren't you? I
want a game that is fluid both in interactivity, and in actual content, I've
said this a hundred times.

Yet you play Front Mission 4….

Apparently you have a extreme bias against Sony, and all of it's games.
Front Mission 4 has become a cult classic, same as Final Fantasy Tactics.
Both were reviewed to be horrible but have fans that still play to this day,
and experiment with the game.

Hmmm, it’s funny how some of my favorite games are on Sony consoles…anyway,
just because a game becomes a cult classic doesn’t mean its good – there’s a
reason why these things are called “cult” classics. People seem to show
interest in them for no apparent reason other than to be different… I also
find it interesting that you think that the most highly acclaimed, and most
genuinely entertaining Final Fantasy game – FF Tactics – was considered
horrible by game reviewers. Last time I checked, most critics found it to be
far more entertaining the average FF bore-a-thon.

Note that I said me saying who knowing if it will be released was
sarcastic, not your comment. Twilight Princess has been delayed repeatedly.

That it has, but the odds of Nintendo scrapping this near-final code are on
par with the likelihood that you actually have a brain in your skull

Nintendo had the same problem in Japan as the PSP had in the US. Do you not
understand that? How is that proving I am biased? Did I go to Japan and
screw up DS's? No. It happened and you act like the PSP problems are much
more important and on a broader scale, which they weren't. You just didn't
hear about problems from Japan.

And why would the Japanese complain about anything sony-related?!? It’s just
like how they never complain about Japanese cans being fed to legitimate
competitors in Pride FC. I also never said the PSP problems were much more
important – they’re on par with Nintendo’s problems – so basically both
companies screwed up.

And who game them game of the year? Gamepro? Who cares what game critics
say, play games and see if you like them. If you find quality games that
weren't marked high more power to you. I suppose you've never heard of the
phrase 'cult classic'. Think about movies like Donnie Darko, reviewed
horrible then suddenly it was flying off store shelves so fast it couldn't
be controlled. Also, any magazine that rates Halo/2 high is dead in my
book.

1) Gamepro sucks – good job assuming that I read that POS, moron. You see
the thing is, I don’t care much for game critics either, but their opinions
are far more valid than yours. These people have been playing games for
years, so why would I listen to you when you have zero credibility?!?! When
the majority of critics hate a game, you know it really can’t be that great,
and in contrast, when a multitude of critics enjoy a game and give it
prestigious honors, you know it kind of has to be good.

2) Donnie Darko did NOT receive horrible reviews – it sucks, yes – but most
critics enjoyed it. Go to Rottentomatoes.com where they add up every single
review for it and average it out; I think the final score was something
around 80%...not bad at all.

3) Halo 2…I don’t like the game either, but if you can name a better
multiplayer game (on consoles) – which you can’t – I’d sure like to know
about it. The single player experience may be repetitive and may consist of
poor production games – ‘cept for the sound – but the multiplayer experience
pretty much makes the game.

read it again, I said their main target audience is kids, not their entire
audience. Why would they not want to get anyone to play their systems or
games, that is just bad marketing

And because their main target audience is kids, means that there games
aren’t fun, innovative, or challenging? Try a game like Pikmin 2 or Metroid
Prime 2: Echoes – games you probably wouldn’t be able to complete, since I’m
sure you lack the patience and finesse required. It’s funny how their best
games aren’t even targeted towards children – the Metroid series…

Cookie cutter character generalizations have nothing to do with the actual
depth of the plot. Calamity in the sky refers to Jenova as she landed on
earth and created the northern meteor, geostigma is the disease that Jenova
spread amoung the ancients to turn them into the monsters that roam the
earth, Zack and Cloud were both bombarded with mako energy during Hojo's
experiments after they were wounded by Sephiroth, Zacks body took it and
Cloud's couldn't as he was weak at the time, Zack told cloud his life story
basically when Cloud was unconsious and then shinra soldiers found them and
killed Zack, and Zack's memories became Cloud's, then when he met Tifa by
the train in sector 7 she told him about their childhood and his real
memories were then part of him as well.

Actually they do you worthless piece of **** – shallow character design = a
less believable plot. And when you have this pretentious, bull**** story –
like in FF7, Xenosaga, and many other RPGs – there’s almost no reason to
play the damn game. I don’t think I wanted to hear about that game’s piece
of **** story, so I just ignored everything after “Calamity in the sky”. The
fact still remains – the story borrows HEAVILY from its predecessor and the
bulk of RPGs that came out beforehand.

By the way, the dialogue is ****.

Uh....you know that it is free right?

I’m sure it requires a high-speed internet connection – is that free too!!
Damn what a world…

Violent games shouldn't be played by young players, and once the ESRB is
properly enforced (will be soon with the current GTA scandal) games will
stay in the hands of people who should be playing them. It isn't just
violence that makes a game meant for mature audiences, its also language,
and how the violence is done. Killing a zombie is no where near as bad as
beating a police officer to death with a sex toy.

Yeah, I’m sure once they force those rating, kids will no longer be able to
play mature games – because we all know the only way for a child to obtain
an M rated game is to buy it at a store. They can’t just borrow those games
from someone, take it from their parents, or buy it elsewere…that’s
completely unrealistic. Kids want to play games like that and if you haven’t
noticed most kids use the same foul language found in those games – most
“MATURE” people -- and I’m not taking about 17+ year olds, but rather
people who aren’t entertained by meaningless things like sex and violent –
would actually want to play a more serious game.

and the reason i post repeatedly, is to get you a-holes out of this thread and discuss this elsewhere. i would rather hear news on the Revolution here rather than go to a multitude of sites to get my info, but thanks to you guys i was forced to take my time and search the gaming pages. which takes out a lot of time from actual gaming. and to prove my point, there are people talking about needing to upgrade their motherboards to get a 3 video card marchine. so do us all a favor and leave this thread alone. if you do not then **** you...

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by mentalskater

But why does Full Auto only look marginally better than most Xbox games? It
doesn’t matter what a developer says because when it comes to framerate
consistency, it’s rarely ever true. Expect Full Auto to chug like just about
every major Xbox game – save for Ninja Gaiden.

Yeah that damn Resident Evil 4…and that damn Gamecube with its 400mhz
processor…why can’t it be more like Half Life 2 – a game that requires a
relatively high-end PC for graphics that are only slighter sharper than
those of Resident Evil 4…a bit blockier…but with tons more interactivity…

And how many people actually want to interact with every object in the game?
Alas that’s the most exciting part of Half Life 2….which is a damn shame.

-------------------------------------------------


How has that really been proven? Were there any actual Xbox 360 consoles
available at E3? Nobody has proven anything about the Xbox 360, so just wait
until it comes out. Remember, the launch games for the original Xbox looked
– and played – much worse than the E3 demos did so the same could very well
happen to the 360 games…

The thing is, the Xbox 360 is capable of making games run smoothly at Xbox
360, but those games are the worse looking games like that one zombie game
and FFXI. Developers seem to be pushing the console to its (unimpressive)
limits with games like Gears of War (the build at E3 only ran at 15-20fps)
and Elder Scrolls 4 – a game that will actually look worse than its PC
counterpart.

I’m not saying the final code will have framerate inconsistencies, but with
only a few more months to go before launch, it seems highly unlikely that
they’ll [Microsoft Game Studios] be able to fix that because their track
record dictates it.

Just go to Gamespot.com and read what they thought of the underwhelming Xbox
360 demos



Yet you play Front Mission 4….




Hmmm, it’s funny how some of my favorite games are on Sony consoles…anyway,
just because a game becomes a cult classic doesn’t mean its good – there’s a
reason why these things are called “cult” classics. People seem to show
interest in them for no apparent reason other than to be different… I also
find it interesting that you think that the most highly acclaimed, and most
genuinely entertaining Final Fantasy game – FF Tactics – was considered
horrible by game reviewers. Last time I checked, most critics found it to be
far more entertaining the average FF bore-a-thon.



That it has, but the odds of Nintendo scrapping this near-final code are on
par with the likelihood that you actually have a brain in your skull



And why would the Japanese complain about anything sony-related?!? It’s just
like how they never complain about Japanese cans being fed to legitimate
competitors in Pride FC. I also never said the PSP problems were much more
important – they’re on par with Nintendo’s problems – so basically both
companies screwed up.




1) Gamepro sucks – good job assuming that I read that POS, moron. You see
the thing is, I don’t care much for game critics either, but their opinions
are far more valid than yours. These people have been playing games for
years, so why would I listen to you when you have zero credibility?!?! When
the majority of critics hate a game, you know it really can’t be that great,
and in contrast, when a multitude of critics enjoy a game and give it
prestigious honors, you know it kind of has to be good.

2) Donnie Darko did NOT receive horrible reviews – it sucks, yes – but most
critics enjoyed it. Go to Rottentomatoes.com where they add up every single
review for it and average it out; I think the final score was something
around 80%...not bad at all.

3) Halo 2…I don’t like the game either, but if you can name a better
multiplayer game (on consoles) – which you can’t – I’d sure like to know
about it. The single player experience may be repetitive and may consist of
poor production games – ‘cept for the sound – but the multiplayer experience
pretty much makes the game.



And because their main target audience is kids, means that there games
aren’t fun, innovative, or challenging? Try a game like Pikmin 2 or Metroid
Prime 2: Echoes – games you probably wouldn’t be able to complete, since I’m
sure you lack the patience and finesse required. It’s funny how their best
games aren’t even targeted towards children – the Metroid series…



Actually they do you worthless piece of **** – shallow character design = a
less believable plot. And when you have this pretentious, bull**** story –
like in FF7, Xenosaga, and many other RPGs – there’s almost no reason to
play the damn game. I don’t think I wanted to hear about that game’s piece
of **** story, so I just ignored everything after “Calamity in the sky”. The
fact still remains – the story borrows HEAVILY from its predecessor and the
bulk of RPGs that came out beforehand.

By the way, the dialogue is ****.




I’m sure it requires a high-speed internet connection – is that free too!!
Damn what a world…



Yeah, I’m sure once they force those rating, kids will no longer be able to
play mature games – because we all know the only way for a child to obtain
an M rated game is to buy it at a store. They can’t just borrow those games
from someone, take it from their parents, or buy it elsewere…that’s
completely unrealistic. Kids want to play games like that and if you haven’t
noticed most kids use the same foul language found in those games – most
“MATURE” people -- and I’m not taking about 17+ year olds, but rather
people who aren’t entertained by meaningless things like sex and violent –
would actually want to play a more serious game.

and the reason i post repeatedly, is to get you a-holes out of this thread and discuss this elsewhere. i would rather hear news on the Revolution here rather than go to a multitude of sites to get my info, but thanks to you guys i was forced to take my time and search the gaming pages. which takes out a lot of time from actual gaming. and to prove my point, there are people talking about needing to upgrade their motherboards to get a 3 video card marchine. so do us all a favor and leave this thread alone. if you do not then **** you...

You're the one who mentioned interactivity. Go ahead, look for the average ratings of Half-Life2 vs Resident Evil 4.

Oh and the Gamecube has a 485MHz IBM processor. Not 400.

big woop, 85 mhz different and you freak out. you truly are a patheitic one.

[Heyyou27]

Originally Posted by mentalskater

big woop, 85 mhz different and you freak out. you truly are a patheitic one.

I'm sorry, but that's an that's a large difference. But seeing as you know absolutly nothing about processors, okay.

I guess you can say **** us then, we don't have to go anywhere. Trailers you get off of the internet will obviously lack the quality of what the game will look like in real life, so never judge graphics by trailers. Once you stop being ignorant to the fact everything you say is not correct, when the facts are continuously growing against you, and grow up a few years, you'll be able to come in here and start mouthing off. Until then you can go back to your room in your parent's house and stop being a little e-thug wanna be gangster. If you have beef with my opinion, tough ****. Guess what? You have already made enough of a thorough fool of yourself that you discredit everything you have said. Once you are in college we'll talk. You think that you know more about the gaming industry than someone who is going to college for program and game design? Doubtful. Your ignorant behavior is beginning to grow tired, so go ahead and get off your soapbox and sit down. You're time for talking out of your ass is over. Game over kid.

[Heyyou27]

Ouch. Painfully true.

you say you can stay here, and it is quite obvious that i can as well.

so tough ****.

and your final argument is about movie trailers, and then you continue on calling me a wannabe gangster. you are truly a ****ed up arrogant ass. i didnt say that i was always right. the facts arent against me. you are painfully mistaken. im not a wannabe gangster. just someone that is tired of your bull****.

you say i brought up interactivity, it was actually foul here that brought it up. but he did not mention half life 2 in any of his post. and yes, being able to jump off a roof is more interactive than most other games. you also fail to notice that i said jump through windows, climb over fences, and a couple other things. you can also block doors and knock over ladders, and much more things but that is truly interactive. and what foulplay used as examples is ff7 where the characters make it interactive. no, you must not know the meaning of interactive. and it is definitly not the ability to connect to the characters (which are still low in personality if you think about it)

you are calling my behavior ingorant, you noticed how the arguments dwindled shortly after what i have said. that means you just ran out of things to talk about. what you have also failed to understand that this was a useless attempt to make me seem like the idiot. but you no longer have a true argument anymore, so take this "imaginary" victory and celebrate it. because you still lack the brains to know that you failed, and that makes you more ingorant than anyone else.

you call me arrogant, notice that i went back on things that i have misread or misunderstood. but you stuck with you bull**** to the end, saying that you were right and i was wrong. if you go back and read your own post and mine, you will come to discover you are the master of arrogance. i might not have been right in some cases, but that does make everything i say wrong. i find it meaningless to argue with you now that i know what you really are. you dont fool me and hopefully you dont fool anyone else. but i think that you know that you were wrong more than i was, and you try to counter it by calling me ignorant. yes go back and check, it really does show your true stupidity. so see ya ****ers as i go start an actual thread about revolution where people can share news about the REVOLUTION, nothing else, that is what the other threads are for. so go bother someone else now.

I cant wait for the Revolution. But there needs to be more information about it!!

ok look, you bias little freaks, nintendo was the greatest but it has fell behind. PS3 was the first system to be planned for next gen. the xbox 360 followed. however the xbox 360 did not even come close to multiplying its power as the ps3 did the ps3 is around 6x as powerful while xbox 360 is only like 2 or 3x im not gonna comment on revolution specs cause nothuing is known really but i will say that at the e3 meeting nintendo said that graphics had come as far as the could so that leads me to believe the revolution wont be much for graphics and im pretty sure it only has one online game and the only use of its online compatability is downloading games many of which if you are a hardcore nintendo fan you already have.

Originally Posted by nofate456

ok look, you bias little freaks, nintendo was the greatest but it has fell behind. PS3 was the first system to be planned for next gen. the xbox 360 followed. however the xbox 360 did not even come close to multiplying its power as the ps3 did the ps3 is around 6x as powerful while xbox 360 is only like 2 or 3x im not gonna comment on revolution specs cause nothuing is known really but i will say that at the e3 meeting nintendo said that graphics had come as far as the could so that leads me to believe the revolution wont be much for graphics and im pretty sure it only has one online game and the only use of its online compatability is downloading games many of which if you are a hardcore nintendo fan you already have.

Playstation 3 might have been the first announced but Xbox360 was the first to come out with final specs. Graphics have come about as far as they can on a standard definition TV, which is the market Nintendo is aiming for: Low income houses with no HDTV. While Sony and Microsoft are aiming for that and the higher income markets. Specs have been leaked somewhat, the fact it is based on dual 1.8GHz PowerPC processors.

What do you mean multiplying power? First of all, as of right now, there is no telling how the Playstation 3 will even perform. Its power is based on cell processor architecture which calculates differently than standard PPC/x86/EM64T architectures. They have said PS3 is 1.8 TFLOPS, and X360 is 1.0 TFLOPS, which actually means less than you would think, as very few operations in current games are floating point operations. We'll see if that has a very big impact soon. X360 is also MUCH faster in integer processing, which is HUGE in current games. X360 aslo uses a unique 'super swap' which is a small, but EXTREMELY FAST add on to video RAM which distributes the processes and makes the video made use of much more efficiently.

In the past all of Nintendo's contollers have been very easey to use and very comfortable. I highly doubt that that's the real controller (plus since it's CG it's probably a fake).