View Full Version : (PS3 related) Timeline of Sony's mistakes


guess_who_i_am
02-01-2007, 03:57 AM
Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups.
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360
Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch.
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006
Dec 20, 2006 - Forced bundles and high retail price put consumers off, claims tracking firm.
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
Dec 27, 2006 - PS3 Greymarket Watch: Scalpers Returning PS3s Back To Stores.
Dec 27, 2006 - Gamers who queued for days to buy Sony's PS3 are frantically trying to trade them for the much cheaper Wii.
Dec 28, 2006 - Sony's PS3: High-Scorer No More

and now this http://www.gamespot.com/news/6165074.html?tag=latestnews;title;0

Panthers
02-01-2007, 06:22 PM
I bet:

-You don't understand maybe, 1/4 of these claims.
-You didn't make this yourself
-You just don't like Sony altogether
-You think what Nintendo tells you to think

That is all.

guess_who_i_am
02-01-2007, 10:56 PM
I didn't make this no, but it is all true.

Axel
02-02-2007, 12:34 AM
The PS3 is shit though.

guess_who_i_am
02-02-2007, 05:26 AM
Exactly, even Sony admits it.

Panthers
02-03-2007, 01:17 AM
Yes. I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company admits that their product is shit.

Heyyou27
02-03-2007, 03:57 PM
A friend of mine bought a PS3 with the intention of re-selling it, but after weeks of leaving it on Ebay, he decided to keep it. As of now, the only decent game was Resistance: Fall of Man, and even that wasn't any better than most of the first person shooters I've been playing on the PC for years.

Even though I'm not a console fan, I'd still like to own an Xbox360 as they're going to get a few decent exclusive titles.

Axel
02-03-2007, 05:11 PM
If I were to get a PS3, one of the only games I'd want would be Assassin's Creed. I made a sig for it as well. Of course, that sig is on Greycobra because it is too pro for Gprime.

Drunken_Shinobi
02-03-2007, 05:38 PM
I would actually want to buy the PS3 if it were actually cheaper.

guess_who_i_am
02-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Yes. I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company admits that their product is shit.
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3

PU8L1C 53RV1C3
02-04-2007, 11:06 AM
Blue Ray is just stupid though its most of the cost for the ps3 just so they and the movie companies can make money.

Panthers
02-04-2007, 03:02 PM
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3

Please cite sources, yourself does not count.

guess_who_i_am
02-04-2007, 06:57 PM
I'll ask the list creator

Sony fanboys are idiots, they can't face the fact that the PS3 is shit and is doomed to fail, like Nintendo fanboys couldn't face the fact that the Gamecube was shit.

Heyyou27
02-04-2007, 07:10 PM
I'll ask the list creator
Sony fanboys are idiots, they can't face the fact that the PS3 is shit and is doomed to fail, like Nintendo fanboys couldn't face the fact that the Gamecube was shit.Once the novelty effect of the Wii wears off, no one is going to want one either. Right now there are NO good Wii exclusives, and it's a damn shame. Have you ever even played Resident Evil 4 for the Gamecube? That game alone is reason enough to own the console.

guess_who_i_am
02-04-2007, 08:36 PM
Have you seen what they have coming out on the wii though, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption looks awsome and so does Fire Emblem: Tenative Title and Super Smash Bros Brawl. The Wii hasn't even been out for a year yet, they haven't even begun to release the good games yet.

uglypugly
02-06-2007, 12:52 AM
I bet:
-You don't understand maybe, 1/4 of these claims.
How can you not understand those? Are words like "compatibility" and "exclusively" too big for you?


-You didn't make this yourself

Who cares?


-You just don't like Sony altogether

Everyone has a right to their own opinion.


-You think what Nintendo tells you to think

When has Nintendo dissed Sony more then Sony has dissed itself?


Please cite sources, yourself does not count.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/games/playstation-better-late-than-never/2006/12/04/1165080869332.html


Yes. I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company admits that their product is shit.

They might not have used that exact word, but they said nice things about the Wii.

Snow
02-06-2007, 10:55 PM
You (Among other people) like the Wii. I like the PS3. Is this some attempt to convert us? Are you somehow trying to tell us to stop liking what we do? Sure, the Wii is good, I've played it, I can see why people like it. I don't. Let's leave it at that and let people have their preferences.

guess_who_i_am
02-06-2007, 11:45 PM
I felt like pointing out it's faults and proving that Sony won't remain number 1 in the consoles this generation.

Axel
02-07-2007, 02:08 AM
You think that no one knows that?

Snow
02-07-2007, 02:19 PM
I felt like pointing out it's faults and proving that Sony won't remain number 1 in the consoles this generation.

You never know though, it's a little to early to decide considering not many games have come out yet aside from around 15 launch titles and a bunch of 360 games.

uglypugly
02-07-2007, 06:23 PM
www.NexGenWars.com

Ryu-Nacho
02-07-2007, 08:55 PM
I can't help but laugh when I see an argument like this. Like Floyd pointed out, it's too early to decide. PS3 and Wii have been out for what? Two months? None of these systems are really going to be the same in a year. Thats when the consoles will really show their true forms.

guess_who_i_am
02-07-2007, 11:54 PM
PS3 still isn't coming out for another month in most of Europe and Australia, so that right there is really a real big fuck up.

allan01
02-08-2007, 06:10 PM
yeah i occasionly play my ps2 (final fantasy series is awsome). but why didn't they release the ps3 in australia anyway? considering some of the comments i most likely won't buy it for awile anyway (leave untill a good game i like is realeased)

Drunken_Shinobi
02-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Sony has made some screw-ups but it doesn't mean I totally give up on their game systems. Right now I'm not liking the PS3 too much because of how its overpriced. I think the Wii is alright but it doesn't really get me to get off the computer and play it. Right now I think the best system for gaming is the PC.

Ryu-Nacho
02-08-2007, 06:35 PM
PC is always the best system for gaming.

Drunken_Shinobi
02-08-2007, 08:38 PM
PC is always the best system for gaming.
I always like the best....hehe.

guess_who_i_am
02-10-2007, 05:03 AM
They are releasing it in Australia, late next month...

Willy_Wonka
02-11-2007, 09:12 PM
Please cite sources, yourself does not count.

you are a fanboy.... just stop having your period over something that is completely correct. now, i bet, you are gonna come back and say,

aw i bet ur a nintendo or an xbox fanboy.

not true, i dont use any nintendo products, and the xbox of mine crashes all the time. I am a movie fanboy. i use my ps2 as a DVD player.

Heyyou27
02-11-2007, 09:41 PM
All of the new systems suck. The only decent game on the Wii is Twilight Princess, and I can play that on the Gamecube with the same graphical quality, aside from the lack of 16:9 support, and I can use the free camera features as well, which has been lost on the Wii version. The 360 does have Gears of War, which is a decent game and they're getting Bioshock later this year which should be a blast, but then again, playing that in Direct X10 on my PC should be quite a bit nicer.

Snow
02-11-2007, 09:51 PM
I think the the PS3 has some nice games coming up in 2007 and 2008.

Cebekazu
03-04-2007, 02:51 PM
Considering that Microsoft is a company run by a bunch of greedy people trying to get you to by every single component just to enjoy the 360 (or even the first xbox), I would have to go with PS3. I don't like the fact that the PS3 is $600, but I'd rather buy that than to keep putting money into a 360 just to download content for games that I've bought and just seem like demos without downloading anything. Almost everyone I know that has a Wii has problems with it or the games are too boring. I, personally, give the new Zelda game 5/5, but I am not looking forward to the new Metroid. I would have to predict that Square Enix is not going anywhere without Sony, so I would say that you could probably expect another Final Fantasy game on the PS3.

I didn't expect much from Nintendo after they came out with the Gamecube. The only decent title on Gamecube was Super Smash Bros. But I'm sidetracking here.

I would like to think that the PS3 is going to become better than the 360 though. The 360 is not a new console. It's been out for quite a while. I think that sales for the 360 are not going to continue going as smooth in about 2 years. After Metal Gear Solid for the PS3 comes out, I expect sales to increase twofold.

.... Just my personal opinion though.

Led_Zeppelin
03-04-2007, 03:08 PM
When the new Grand Theft Auto comes out, I'll buy a PS3.

Drunken_Shinobi
03-04-2007, 06:37 PM
It would most likely eventually get ported to the PC.

Led_Zeppelin
03-04-2007, 06:38 PM
I don't like playing video games like GTA on the computer, just seems weird to me.

Drunken_Shinobi
03-04-2007, 06:41 PM
Well I like playing it on the PC better because there's always a way to download it for free.

Heyyou27
03-04-2007, 06:51 PM
I'm typing this on my Wii and it sucks. GTA4 is coming to the PS3/Xbox360 around the same time.

Drunken_Shinobi
03-04-2007, 09:37 PM
Why aren't you using your PC? Oh yeah...and I use my Wii just to watch videos on Youtube.

Heyyou27
03-05-2007, 07:28 AM
Why aren't you using your PC? Oh yeah...and I use my Wii just to watch videos on Youtube.
I had to try out the nifty web browser, DUH! I was disappointed to find that my keyboard for the Gamecube wasn't recognizedly by the Wii's web browser.

Drunken_Shinobi
03-05-2007, 09:29 AM
You didn't really have to try it by posting here with it. I didn't try posting with the Wii here because I feel it's too hard to do all the typing. It's just frustrating to type out all those sentences slowly. I just tried it out by watching a bunch of Youtube videos.

Hellraiser
03-05-2007, 04:46 PM
the Wii is to much fun...

period

Drunken_Shinobi
03-05-2007, 08:20 PM
I'm still more addicted to the PC obviously...but I use the Wii now and then.

guess_who_i_am
03-05-2007, 11:39 PM
When the new Grand Theft Auto comes out, I'll buy a PS3.
It's coming out on the 360 as well.

Sen
07-23-2007, 08:40 PM
It's coming out on the 360 as well.
I'm not trying to sound like a PS fanboy or anything, but it will be better on the PC or PS3 than on the 360. Think about it, 2 years of development for the PS3, and at the last minute, you decide you wanna port it to the 360, an already inferior product (in terms of specs, is all I'm saying. Look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generati on%29#Comparison))
It just won't be the same.

Heyyou27
07-23-2007, 10:41 PM
I'm not trying to sound like a PS fanboy or anything, but it will be better on the PC or PS3 than on the 360. Think about it, 2 years of development for the PS3, and at the last minute, you decide you wanna port it to the 360, an already inferior product (in terms of specs, is all I'm saying. Look (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_%28seventh_generati on%29#Comparison))
It just won't be the same.You do realize that the Xbox360 GPU consists of 16ROPs, 16TMUs, 48 unified shaders, and has 10MB of embedded DRAM? Not only is it faster than the PS3's cut down G71 based GPU, but it's basically Direct X10 compliant and has hardware support for tessellation. The embedded DRAM is capable of providing antialiasing and anisotropic filtering without a performance penalty. Thanks to the unified memory design, the GPU and CPU can dynamically allocate the 512MB of memory wherever it's needed, while the RSX and Cell each have 256MB of memory. Games like Gears of War would never look as good on the PS3 as the GPU does not have hardware support for antialiasing with FP16, where the Xbox360 can use the two together with no performance hit. The Cell only has 7 SPEs enabled to improve chip yields, and even then these "cores" aren't able to schedule their own tasks, and rely on the single PPE to even process the smallest tasks. If software catches up to the complexity of the Cell, it could have some promising results, but even then it won't be a stellar gaming CPU.

Sen
07-27-2007, 05:37 PM
That's bull, and you know it.

Heyyou27
07-27-2007, 09:33 PM
That's bull, and you know it.How about you post some evidence to back that up? The PS3's GPU is basically a 7900GT with half the ROPs and about half the memory bandwidth. I personally prefer gaming on my PC; my 8800GTX is faster than the Xbox 360 GPU and PS3 GPU combined.