View Full Version : The Mysteries Behind Religion
Frookie 08-26-2006, 12:37 AM For so long, religion has been a part of our lives. It influences our careers, families, education, fashion, food, and many other things. However, religion was not made for that purpose. Religions were started as a way to prevent crime. That's right, crime. The same thing we are trying to prevent with laws, the first people used religion to fight off crime.
It was a way to make the people wonder what would happen to them if they committed an atrocious act against anything that was worth punishing them for. Now we use religion to not punish people. Religion has become more relaxed ever since the monarchs in Europe were killed and religions changed forever becasue of those killings.
Religions are not to different from each other. They follow morals that people who aren't dumb can figure out for themsleves. However, it is funny how similar some religions are. They recycle ideas and alter them so that they appear as a genuine thought when the reality is that they aren't genuine at all.
Some religions though are all too different from each other, while some are so basic, that they are mostly based on morals and your beliefs or what you think is fact. Take for example the religion known as the Invisible Pink Unicorn. Do you think Unicorns exist? How can you tell an invisible Unicorn is pink? How can you prove that the Unicorn is invisible? How can you know that the invisible and pink colored thing is a Unicorn? This religion goes mostly based on your beliefs.
Religions were never meant to force people into them, but they did plenty of it. When the wars were fought, the victors would force the surviving losers to convert to their religion sometimes. This was mostly done by the Romans, who would convert other people to their religion. Christianity did this also, even though it started out as a cult and grew into the dominating religion of the time. The Holy Wars are a major example of this.
Now I want to hear your take on this.
Zetex 08-26-2006, 12:49 AM Let people beleive what they want to beleive, it doesn't affect me.
MrNaPaLm32 08-26-2006, 04:21 AM For so long, religion has been a part of our lives. It influences our careers, families, education, fashion, food, and many other things. However, religion was not made for that purpose. Religions were started as a way to prevent crime.Wow are you wrong,
the actual first religion to ever attempt to prevent crime was Judaism. Religions up until that point simply demanded appeasement of the gods. Got anything to prove me wrong? Go for it.
And to the rest of your article,
I dont see one shred of fact in there. All I see is your own attempt at an unresearched theory as to the purpose and meaning of religion.
Thank You
Ryu-Nacho 08-26-2006, 08:53 AM Naplam pointed out what I was going to. There is nothing cited in there that proves anything, making it yet another biased rant.
Sounds like that guy from the Time Cube thread.
Frookie 08-26-2006, 11:43 AM Wow are you wrong,
the actual first religion to ever attempt to prevent crime was Judaism. Religions up until that point simply demanded appeasement of the gods. Got anything to prove me wrong? Go for it.
And to the rest of your article,
I dont see one shred of fact in there. All I see is your own attempt at an unresearched theory as to the purpose and meaning of religion.
Thank You
you don't understand though
The point is that religions were intended to prevent crime Nathan, truth being told, without any organization of government and religion, crimes would be committed left and right, they had to make the people fear the unknown, and they made the Gods control the unknown, the people in the times of Ancient Mesopotamia, Persia, Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome did not know the science behind lightning, crops, things of that nature. If lightning killed someone, people believed it was because that person was bad and the lightning god killed said person because of it. They didn't know that someone standing in an open field was more likely to die from lightning if they stood up rather than if they kneeled down or lied on the ground.
Point being, they had no clue what to expect from day to day because anything irrational could happen because the "Gods" were angry with the people for their crimes.
Led_Zeppelin 08-26-2006, 12:23 PM I'm my own god, I eat, worship what I want. I run my own life, not some made up* figure.
*Based on my opinion.
Ryu-Nacho 08-26-2006, 04:20 PM you don't understand though
The point is that religions were intended to prevent crime Nathan, truth being told, without any organization of government and religion, crimes would be committed left and right, they had to make the people fear the unknown, and they made the Gods control the unknown, the people in the times of Ancient Mesopotamia, Persia, Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome did not know the science behind lightning, crops, things of that nature. If lightning killed someone, people believed it was because that person was bad and the lightning god killed said person because of it. They didn't know that someone standing in an open field was more likely to die from lightning if they stood up rather than if they kneeled down or lied on the ground.
Point being, they had no clue what to expect from day to day because anything irrational could happen because the "Gods" were angry with the people for their crimes.
Our point is that you have no proof of anything you just said.
MrNaPaLm32 08-26-2006, 07:20 PM you don't understand though
The point is that religions were intended to prevent crime Nathan, truth being told, without any organization of government and religion, crimes would be committed left and right, they had to make the people fear the unknown, and they made the Gods control the unknown, the people in the times of Ancient Mesopotamia, Persia, Ancient Greece, and Ancient Rome did not know the science behind lightning, crops, things of that nature. If lightning killed someone, people believed it was because that person was bad and the lightning god killed said person because of it. They didn't know that someone standing in an open field was more likely to die from lightning if they stood up rather than if they kneeled down or lied on the ground.
Point being, they had no clue what to expect from day to day because anything irrational could happen because the "Gods" were angry with the people for their crimes.Again, Judaism was the first religion to preach laws that are mandated by god unto his people, which upon failure to uphold these laws would consequently mean punishment. And you completely deviated from your point, explaining the unknowns are what religion is about in the first place, but a person being struck by lightning has nothing to do with a mandated law by god(s).
Frookie 08-26-2006, 10:59 PM yes it does Nathan, it would be their punishment to a person for committing a crime, say you own farmland and the crops do well, before your next harvest, you kill someone, the next year, a fire burns all of your crops before you can harvest them, punishment is what it is
MrNaPaLm32 08-27-2006, 12:23 AM yes it does Nathan, it would be their punishment to a person for committing a crime, say you own farmland and the crops do well, before your next harvest, you kill someone, the next year, a fire burns all of your crops before you can harvest them, punishment is what it isMust I say this again? I'll put it on a seperate paragraph for you, so oyu can see it better.
The first religion to introduce crime and punishment by ways of laws mandated by god were the jews.
Which pagan religion forbades the killing of another man? Please, tell me.
paranoia 08-27-2006, 07:51 PM Stop trolling, Frookie.
guess_who_i_am 08-27-2006, 08:58 PM I vote for the Invisable Pink Unicorn
Heyyou27 08-27-2006, 09:11 PM http://www.inkycircus.com/photos/uncategorized/fsm_1.jpg
MrNaPaLm32 08-27-2006, 09:36 PM http://www.inkycircus.com/photos/uncategorized/fsm_1.jpgI thought the spaghetti monster was supposed to be evil.
Drunken_Shinobi 08-27-2006, 10:53 PM Another religious debate thread...great.
Frookie 08-28-2006, 12:56 AM Must I say this again? I'll put it on a seperate paragraph for you, so oyu can see it better.
The first religion to introduce crime and punishment by ways of laws mandated by god were the jews.
Which pagan religion forbades the killing of another man? Please, tell me.
the Ancient religions relied on the fear of the people to control them so they didn't need religious laws other than what to do to celebrate the gods
MrNaPaLm32 08-28-2006, 01:26 AM the Ancient religions relied on the fear of the people to control them so they didn't need religious laws other than what to do to celebrate the godsWell, thank you for admitting that religions predating Judaism did not have religious laws and punishment. Sine the debate is over, and there are too many religious threads anyways...
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