What is a fact?

It is what our minds judge to be the reason(s) behind something.
It is the collective of research data by yourself and others.
It is something that shouldn't be challenged when it is established to be factual.

However, facts aren't all that they appear to be.
If you really wanted to know what to believe, then let yourself absorb everything about what you want to believe is a fact and filter out what you don't like. Don't let some dictionary define something to be too broad or too short for your liking. Go out into the real world and do your own research.
Fox News hits it right on the money: We Report. You Decide.
They tell you the news in their perspective, but you get to choose whether to believe what they tell you is a fact or not.
Fact is based on trust as well.

Do you trust other people's calculations and judgements?
Do you trust your own observations?
Do you trust that this will never be challenged?

However, you can be blinded by something unfactual. Remember the three listed items for trust? You can disprove any of those by these three ways.

Their calculations and judgements can and most of the time will be put into their own perspective and thus become altered.
Your can blind yourself from what you want to believe is true.
Facts change all of the time. Pluto is a good example. Pluto was a planet and that was a fact. Now, it's not a planet anymore.

Now down to the deepest roots of fact and not fact.
If you relate fact to truth, then why not relate unfactual things to lies?
That's bias right there. Lies aren't completely unfactual. As a matter of fact, lies contain truths in them, but not enough truth to be completely factual. You can also stretch the truth, meaning that you can lie a little, but still get the fact to be emphasized.
Now, what is not a fact?

It is what our minds judge to not be the reason(s) behind something.
It is the collective of research data by yourself and others that is disproven.
It is something that shouldn't be challenged when it is established to be unfactual.

The first two are opposites, but the last two share the common theme of not being challenged. Factual and unfactual things are more related than what you would think of them to be.

Remember this though:

Do you think I'm telling you something factual or unfactual?
"There is no learned man. There is only the learning man, the man who challenges their own beliefs till they have made their own choice on what the answer is." (self made quote)





Now debate whether you think I am correct or incorrect on my judgement of this idea.

Facts are pieces of evidence that cannot be disproven.

Like he said, what about Pluto? It was once a planet and that was a fact. Now that was disproven and it is now a dwarf planet.

but NaPaLm, facts are always brought into questioning in the court system, false facts, such as red herrings are common in trials

but NaPaLm, facts are always brought into questioning in the court system, false facts, such as red herrings are common in trialsWho said facts cant change? Gay Marraige is not sanctioned federally in the United States, Fact. In a few years from now, it may change.

I took disproven a little too one way

I took disproven a little too one wayThe justice system doesnt disporve fact, it changes it.

The justice system doesnt disporve fact, it changes it.
That's incorrect; the justice system does not disprove facts, it proves laws are unjust and changes them.

That's incorrect; the justice system does not disprove facts, it proves laws are unjust and changes them.WTF? I just said that.

WTF? I just said that.
Laws and Facts are not the same thing.

yup, they're not the same thing, laws are guidelines to follow, facts are (see above)

yup, they're not the same thing, laws are guidelines to follow, facts are (see above)you cannot continue to impose your own unsupported hypotheses for the meanings of things.
Laws and Facts are not the same thing.Interesting how you say that...


fact 
–noun

1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.

my dictionary doesn't have Law as a "fact"

you cannot continue to impose your own unsupported hypotheses for the meanings of things.
Interesting how you say that...
fact 
–noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.
Get over yourself; you’re acting like a child. You cannot replace the word Law with fact when talking about laws in the U.S. The law the dictionary is talking about would be natural law such as, it’s impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, not it’s against the law to do so.

Get over yourself; you’re acting like a child. You cannot replace the word Law with fact when talking about laws in the U.S. The law the dictionary is talking about would be natural law such as, it’s impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, not it’s against the law to do so.I'm acting like a child for stating something that opposes your own ideas?

I'm acting like a child for stating something that opposes your own ideas?
No, acting like a child is the constant barrage of insults and weak comebacks. You're constantly trying to refute anything anyone on the forum says and it gets quite annoying.
When looking at your profile I notice this http://abs.gprime.net/forcedignore.pngand it becomes ever so apparent that I’m not the only one that feels this way; perhaps you should take notice. Nathan, I use to think you were an alright guy, but after your constantly cleansing of threads you disagree with, or the personal attacks used of Frookie I see that maybe you’re not as great as I once thought. You have some real potential, but you're letting your ego get in your way when you've still got so much to learn about our world. Your interest in science and technology is one I share, but in this field arrogance is not something that'll end up helping you; while at the moment you may feel you know so much, in a few years you'll see that maybe you didn't know as much as you thought.

No, acting like a child is the constant barrage of insults and weak comebacks. You're constantly trying to refute anything anyone on the forum says and it gets quite annoying.
When looking at your profile I notice this http://abs.gprime.net/forcedignore.pngand it becomes ever so apparent that I’m not the only one that feels this way; perhaps you should take notice. Nathan, I use to think you were an alright guy, but after your constantly cleansing of threads you disagree with, or the personal attacks used of Frookie I see that maybe you’re not as great as I once thought. You have some real potential, but you're letting your ego get in your way when you've still got so much to learn about our world. Your interest in science and technology is one I share, but in this field arrogance is not something that'll end up helping you; while at the moment you may feel you know so much, in a few years you'll see that maybe you didn't know as much as you thought.First off, I haven’t noticed a forced ignore on ANYONE but rehabisforquitters for the entire time that I've been here. Perhaps Blackice will inform me of who 615 and 1024 are, and "weak" combacks are your own personal judgement.

Refuting anything anyone says on the forums? I moderate the DEBATE forum, and quite frankly, the only person who I've been "refuting" lately is Mr. Eric Rose, if you've taken notice of just about everything that prompted me to SAY everything, contradictory, Incorrect, and blatantly off-the-wall statements regaurding many subjects including social life. I don’t WANT to do that, but I, and I'm sure many other people who are less conspicuous than myself, don’t want to hear it at all. Whining to the admins is obviously not the way to go, as Frookie himself has tried this many times. So why not get him to shut up by going deep? You see, if he stayed away from certain subjects, I wouldn't have a problem with him at all. He can lie to himself for eternity for all I care, just not to real people.

As for the "constant" changing of posts I don't see fit, by your definition, I've only done that in ONE thread. So I wouldn't exactly call it "constant". Fine, I'm wrong, Are you happy now? If you still want to dwell on the Mel Gibson thread, I'll bring it back an undelete all the posts so you can ridicule my all you want, just be aware that its only a reflection of your own maturity.

First off, I haven’t noticed a forced ignore on ANYONE but rehabisforquitters for the entire time that I've been here. Perhaps Blackice will inform me of who 615 and 1024 are, and "weak" combacks are your own personal judgement.
Refuting anything anyone says on the forums? I moderate the DEBATE forum, and quite frankly, the only person who I've been "refuting" lately is Mr. Eric Rose, if you've taken notice of just about everything that prompted me to SAY everything, contradictory, Incorrect, and blatantly off-the-wall statements regaurding many subjects including social life. I don’t WANT to do that, but I, and I'm sure many other people who are less conspicuous than myself, don’t want to hear it at all. Whining to the admins is obviously not the way to go, as Frookie himself has tried this many times. So why not get him to shut up by going deep? You see, if he stayed away from certain subjects, I wouldn't have a problem with him at all. He can lie to himself for eternity for all I care, just not to real people.
As for the "constant" changing of posts I don't see fit, by your definition, I've only done that in ONE thread. So I wouldn't exactly call it "constant". Fine, I'm wrong, Are you happy now? If you still want to dwell on the Mel Gibson thread, I'll bring it back an undelete all the posts so you can ridicule my all you want, just be aware that its only a reflection of your own maturity.You sound like an insane man thinking the rest of the world has gone crazy.

Why would I ridicule you for admitting you made a mistake? You're human and I've very capable of understanding that. The biggest mistake would be never admitting you made one. Frookie is no better so don’t think I’m trying to single you out; I simply expect a lot more out of you than I do him.

What happened to no more fighting?

What happened to no more fighting?Define "fight". I really wouldn't consider anything said in this thread a "fight".

Well here's the definition (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Fight&x=0&y=0) for fight. Nothing in here completely matches with the definition of fight, but it's more indirect. This is more like a heated debate.

Define "fight". I really wouldn't consider anything said in this thread a "fight".
I'll rephrase it, no more "heated arguing".

I'll rephrase it, no more "heated arguing".Heated arguing is fine. What I mean is "You're stupid! i hate everything about you! moron!" The kind of thing you were involved in.

So ignorant contradictions are a no-no?

So ignorant contradictions are a no-no?No, I like to point them out, but I wouldn't delete a post because of it.

Well, now that this thread is thoroughly off-topic, I'm going to do my job, and lock it.