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Axel
08-15-2006, 04:02 AM
Which religion do you think sounds the most rationable. Give reasons for your answers.

EDIT: Damn forgot to put a poll...

rehabisforquitters
08-15-2006, 04:41 AM
Asatru (http://www.religioustolerance.org/asatru.htm)

Axel
08-15-2006, 04:43 AM
Wow, I wasn't expecting that.

Frookie
08-15-2006, 12:52 PM
agnosticism, if you count that as a religion

agnostic: One who holds the theory that God is unknown or unknowable

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 02:13 PM
If it ends with "ism", i'm not buyin it.

Frookie
08-15-2006, 02:24 PM
that's because it doesn't float your boat

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 02:28 PM
Well, yes. But i'm not just talking about Agnosticism... but I thought you were Atheist.

Frookie
08-15-2006, 02:33 PM
I'm agnostic, my dad's athiest, my mom's catholic, so I don't go to church since they're not worried that we'll burn in Hell

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 02:38 PM
I thought Catholics thought anyone who wasn't Catholic went to Hell. You sure she's not just being nice?

Frookie
08-15-2006, 02:47 PM
no, we were never forced to go to church once at all, and she is nice in general

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 03:07 PM
For the record, I wasn't making any personal attacks against your mother.

Frookie
08-15-2006, 03:25 PM
I know, just stating, she's never said that if we dont' go to church that we'll burn in Hell or anything like that

Ryu-Nacho
08-15-2006, 04:33 PM
I agree with agnosticism. I'm an agnostic, though I go to church weekly.

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 04:40 PM
That must be interesting.

Frookie
08-15-2006, 04:41 PM
yes Ryu-Nacho, you must tell us why you go to church every week even though you're agnostic, I'd like to know why

Ryu-Nacho
08-15-2006, 04:44 PM
There are several things. One, I'm not content with simply not knowing. I want to know whether or not there is a God. To do this, I need to learn, from many viewpoints, people's aspects on God. One of these ways is by going to church. The other reason is because my church kicks ass. We play lots of games, and talk about many ridiculous things along with common worship, song, and praise.
And, Sep. 15, I won't be on Gprime; I'll be at an all-nighter at church, playing video games or something.

nickychris3
08-15-2006, 04:58 PM
No fair....

Frookie
08-15-2006, 06:09 PM
I took a comparative religions class in high school last year, it was fun, but I didn't find any religion that was really worth divulging into more

but I did like the religions of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the Invisible Pink Unicorn, the Invisible Pink Unicorn one is the most basic one of them all, seeing how can you know an invisible unicorn is pink? and how does a unicorn exist? and how can a unicorn be invisible?

Ryu-Nacho
08-15-2006, 06:20 PM
The invisible unicorn is pink, 'cuz it said so. It exists, because its allowed to. It's invisible, because it has ground breaking technology that bends light in such a way as to make it invisible.
Maybe.

paranoia
08-15-2006, 08:24 PM
Let's see. "I am the reincarnation of a living thing", "An invisible spirit created me, and forces me to obey him.", "See the sun over there? It's really our deity, and we are going to waste crops by offering them to it." and "We are all part of one big science expiriment."

All of them are bullshit.

Ryu-Nacho
08-15-2006, 10:28 PM
I know. Obviously, you're supposed to point to me, then say "See that guy? He's our deity."

Frookie
08-15-2006, 10:40 PM
pfft, as if Ryu-Nacho, sorry, I will not point at you, it's rude

Axel
08-16-2006, 01:50 AM
agnosticism, if you count that as a religion

agnostic: One who holds the theory that God is unknown or unknowable
Isn't that like atheism?
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Oh, and has anyone heard of Asura?

guess_who_i_am
08-16-2006, 03:37 AM
Scientology

Frookie
08-16-2006, 08:47 AM
Isn't that like atheism?
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Oh, and has anyone heard of Asura?

atheism is the belief in no gods

agnosticism is the theory that God is unknown or unknowable

MrNaPaLm32
08-16-2006, 02:09 PM
atheism is the belief in no gods
agnosticism is the theory that God is unknown or unknowableag·nos·ti·cism Audio pronunciation of "agnosticism" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-nst-szm)
n.

1. The doctrine that certainty about first principles or absolute truth is unattainable and that only perceptual phenomena are objects of exact knowledge.
2. The belief that there can be no proof either that God exists or that God does not existActually you're both right.

rehabisforquitters
08-16-2006, 02:57 PM
Poopbutt.

nickychris3
08-16-2006, 04:22 PM
Scientology
Wait... what? Did you read the title correctly?

Axel
08-17-2006, 01:46 AM
Actually you're both right.
Yay, go me.

Zetex
08-26-2006, 01:37 AM
Scientology
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/

MrNaPaLm32
08-26-2006, 04:27 AM
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/What I think is truely funny about that Is that muslims and buddists killed more people than all of the other religions COMBINED.

Drunken_Shinobi
08-27-2006, 10:54 PM
They're not merciful religions I guess.

Zetex
08-27-2006, 10:56 PM
What I think is truely funny about that Is that muslims and buddists killed more people than all of the other religions COMBINED.
Christains slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people

MrNaPaLm32
08-27-2006, 11:05 PM
Christains slaughtered hundreds of thousands of peopleActually I misspoke, I meant Muslims and Hundu's.

Christians killed 100,000's. Muslims and Hundu's have killed more than 3 million of just eachother let alone others.

nickychris3
08-27-2006, 11:28 PM
And let's not forget Karl Marx... oh, and Mao Zedong.

MrNaPaLm32
08-28-2006, 12:27 AM
And let's not forget Karl Marx... oh, and Mao Zedong.why are you referring to communist figureheads in a religious debate?

Axel
08-28-2006, 02:04 AM
I always thought Christians killed the most, due to the war of the Holy Land and the Crusaders.

MrNaPaLm32
08-28-2006, 02:06 AM
I always thought Christians killed the most, due to the war of the Holy Land and the Crusaders.The Muslims of moden day Pakistan and the Hindus of India had the bloodiest religious war in history. I forget what it was called, I've been searching for it.

Axel
08-28-2006, 02:13 AM
That's kind of hypocritical of them, they're always talking about peace and not fighting, when they go and kill people just because they don't follow the same religion as them.

guess_who_i_am
08-28-2006, 06:13 AM
That's what every single religion is like apart from mine, the invisable pink unicorn

Drunken_Shinobi
08-28-2006, 08:39 PM
why are you referring to communist figureheads in a religious debate?
Well, she's probably referring to it because Communism is anti-religious and anyone caught worshipping a God would be killed or indoctrined.

MrNaPaLm32
08-28-2006, 09:03 PM
Well, she's probably referring to it because Communism is anti-religious and anyone caught worshipping a God would be killed or indoctrined.Maybe during the times of Stalin, but otherwise religion was just looked down upon.

nickychris3
08-28-2006, 09:28 PM
Yes, but I brought it up for that reason.

MrNaPaLm32
08-28-2006, 09:31 PM
Yes, but I brought it up for that reason.If you're trying to compare how many religious people were killed by non-religious people, and religions amongst themselves, its absolutely no comparison.

MrNaPaLm32
08-28-2006, 10:43 PM
Yes, but I brought it up for that reason.If you're trying to compare how many religious people were killed by non-religious people, and religions amongst themselves, its absolutely no comparison.

nickychris3
08-29-2006, 02:12 AM
Yes... yes, I know. But didn't Marx murder more people than Adolf Hitler or something?

Axel
08-29-2006, 07:28 AM
You are referring to Stalin.

MrNaPaLm32
08-29-2006, 09:15 PM
Yes... yes, I know. But didn't Marx murder more people than Adolf Hitler or something?Marx was a Russian peasant living in absolute poverty.

paranoia
08-29-2006, 10:25 PM
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/


http://facialscientology.ytmnd.com/

Heyyou27
08-29-2006, 10:40 PM
Marx was a Russian peasant living in absolute poverty.
No, Marx was not Russian; he was born in Germany to a middle class family. After his marriage he moved to England living in a three room flat where he lost one of his children during his poverty.

MrNaPaLm32
08-29-2006, 10:52 PM
No, Marx was not Russian; he was born in Germany to a middle class family. After his marriage he moved to England living in a three room flat where he lost one of his children during his poverty.Interesting, I thought he was Russian.

nickychris3
08-30-2006, 01:19 AM
You are referring to Stalin.
Thank you for correcting me.

Heyyou27
08-30-2006, 06:25 AM
Interesting, I thought he was Russian.
Nah, but I can see how the mistake was made.

MrNaPaLm32
08-31-2006, 01:05 AM
Thank you for correcting me.I think you're deviating from the point. The point is that religions were supposed to silence arguments and bring everyone together, but instead, its become a giant blood bath. Religion is mostly why we have our problems over in the Middle East.

nickychris3
08-31-2006, 02:38 AM
Blaming religions for bloodshed is like blaming guns.

Axel
08-31-2006, 05:32 AM
Which is wrong, you should blame people.

MrNaPaLm32
08-31-2006, 10:29 AM
Blaming religions for bloodshed is like blaming guns.Not really, Without religion the religious leaders would not be in power. If the pope couldn't do anything, would there have been the Crusades? Or how about Osama? He's not neccisarily a religious leader, but he's become a religious icon because of the way he manipulates other people. Osama says that if you kill americans, Allah will praise you and you you get to go to paradise with 99 virgins(or whatever). That statement is completely incorrect, it says nowhere in the Queran about killing other people and getting virgin women in return. If religion didnt exist, you couldn't manipulate people in this way.

Heyyou27
08-31-2006, 03:52 PM
Not really, Without religion the religious leaders would not be in power. If the pope couldn't do anything, would there have been the Crusades? Or how about Osama? He's not neccisarily a religious leader, but he's become a religious icon because of the way he manipulates other people. Osama says that if you kill americans, Allah will praise you and you you get to go to paradise with 99 virgins(or whatever). That statement is completely incorrect, it says nowhere in the Queran about killing other people and getting virgin women in return. If religion didnt exist, you couldn't manipulate people in this way.
It's actually 72 virgins; also religion isn't required to manipulate people into believing you. Did Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler, Kim Jong-il, and Vladimir Lenin use religion to make people follow them? Now I'm not saying religion hasn't been used to manipulate people in the past, but it's certainly not the only way it's done.

MrNaPaLm32
08-31-2006, 11:52 PM
Not really, Without religion the religious leaders would not be in power. If the pope couldn't do anything, would there have been the Crusades? Or how about Osama? He's not neccisarily a religious leader, but he's become a religious icon because of the way he manipulates other people. Osama says that if you kill americans, Allah will praise you and you you get to go to paradise with 99 virgins(or whatever). That statement is completely incorrect, it says nowhere in the Queran about killing other people and getting virgin women in return. If religion didnt exist, you couldn't manipulate people in this way.
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It's actually 72 virgins;(or whatever).
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Did I say required? And BTW, Adolf hitler DID use religion to maipulate people. I take it you don't remember him blaming the jews for economic depression in Germany.

Axel
09-01-2006, 02:06 AM
That's incorrect, he is using racism. If he was using religion to manipulate people, he would blame judaism.

nickychris3
09-01-2006, 02:30 AM
Not really, Without religion the religious leaders would not be in power. If the pope couldn't do anything, would there have been the Crusades? Or how about Osama? He's not neccisarily a religious leader, but he's become a religious icon because of the way he manipulates other people. Osama says that if you kill americans, Allah will praise you and you you get to go to paradise with 99 virgins(or whatever). That statement is completely incorrect, it says nowhere in the Queran about killing other people and getting virgin women in return. If religion didnt exist, you couldn't manipulate people in this way.
Yes MrNaPaLm .... but the religion didn't do that.

MrNaPaLm32
09-01-2006, 10:34 AM
That's incorrect, he is using racism. If he was using religion to manipulate people, he would blame judaism.Jew  /dʒu/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[joo] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. one of a scattered group of people that traces its descent from the Biblical Hebrews or from postexilic adherents of Judaism; Israelite.
2. a person whose religion is Judaism.
3. a subject of the ancient kingdom of Judah.
–adjective
4. Offensive. of Jews; Jewish.
–verb (used with object)
5. (lowercase) Offensive. to bargain sharply with; beat down in price (often fol. by down).
Please tell me, anywhare in here where it says Jews are a race. And actually,
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.
Obviously, hitler NEVER blamed judaism for anything.

Axel
09-01-2006, 07:19 PM
My apologies, should've done my homework.

Zetex
09-01-2006, 08:04 PM
Yes MrNaPaLm .... but the religion didn't do that.
That is like saying this.... "My fingers did not type this message, my keyboard did."