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Will you stop it already? You KNOW what everyone is going to say. No. They were wrong. They were very very very very very very wrong. Okay? Happy?

Not really. If they hadn't dropped the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki the war wouldn't have ended.

"Mechanized civilization has just reached the ultimate stage of barbarism. In a near future, we will have to choose between mass suicide and intelligent use of scientific conquests. This can no longer be simply a prayer; it must become an order which goes upward from the peoples to the governments, an order to make a definitive choice between hell and reason."

Not really. If they hadn't dropped the bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki the war wouldn't have ended.
Okay then. They were right, and they were wrong. Discussion over.

Hell Yes

Bleh. They were wrong, of course. :closedeye

They kinda were. It may have killed a lot of people, but they were out of control. We would probably nuke the pants off of Iraq, but theres oil there. There probably wasn't any oil in japan ;-D

the U.S. made the right decision, the part of the war over in Japan was island to island based, we had to take out Japan in a way so devastating that they would be scared of making another attack on us

It was a regrettable but necessary decision on the U.S.'s part. HELLZ YEAH!

haha, nickychris was WAY off

The U.S. made a hard decision but it was the right one; had they not bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki around 100,000 allied P.O.W.s that would have been killed and the war would have lasted much longer.

Oh come on. They bombed innocent people for the purpose of revenge. That's why they were wrong. Sure, we benifitted from it, but they could have used a... slightly different method. Though I guess the japanese were wrong too for not doing things fairly, but come on. We slaughtered innocent people and children who had nothing to do with that war.

Oh come on. They bombed innocent people for the purpose of revenge. That's why they were wrong. Sure, we benifitted from it, but they could have used a... slightly different method.
No they didn't. They did to end a war.
It was the only option and it had to happen, unfortunately.

I guess so.

Of course we were wrong. There could of been oter ways of ending a war. But noooooo, we had to nuke them...

Oh come on. They bombed innocent people for the purpose of revenge. That's why they were wrong. Sure, we benifitted from it, but they could have used a... slightly different method. Though I guess the japanese were wrong too for not doing things fairly, but come on. We slaughtered innocent people and children who had nothing to do with that war.

yeah, and they killed innocent people who weren't even fighting them at Pearl Harbor to begin with, so yeah it was revenge, a revenge for killing innocent people who hadn't even started fighting with them till Pearl Harbor came along

If a thread ever belonged in the debate section, this would be it.

Thanks for pointing that out Led. *Moved*
Anyways, I think it was an appropriate decision. Yes, innocent people died. But if we allowed the war to continue, it's possible that even more lives, innocent or not, could've been take.

If a thread ever belonged in the debate section, this would be it.
Yes it sure is.

We slaughtered innocent people and children who had nothing to do with that war.
They would have taken up arms against the US. Just as the arabs take up arms against the United States now.

they would've taken up more arms is more like it, if they were actually more serious about their fight against us, they would've forced the citizens of Japan to fight against us

Actually, They considered sending Chuck Norris into Japan to fight, but they decided to drop the bomb, because that'd be more humane.

This is a serious debate man...we don't need Chuck Norris jokes here. Well, not serious but it's still a debate and we don't need those kinds of jokes.

plus, Hot Topic ruined the Chuck Norris jokes anyways so they're not funny anymore

I'm with Willy Wonka.

Just kidding, I don't know if it was the right thing to do, but it's not like they just made a split second desicion, they thought about it long and hard.

We could have attacked a tiny, uninhabitated island so it's completly wiped off the map, and told the Japanese that they're next.

We could have attacked a tiny, uninhabitated island so it's completly wiped off the map, and told the Japanese that they're next.
How do you know they'd buy it?

2 words:

Pearl Harbor

I still reckon they made the right decision by dropping the bomb, but I don't th ink they needed to drop two.

Will you stop it already? You KNOW what everyone is going to say. No. They were wrong. They were very very very very very very wrong. Okay? Happy?
You are very very very very wrong. Yes. We should have. Pearl Harbour. That's all I gotta say about that.

You are very very very very wrong. Yes. We should have. Pearl Harbour. That's all I gotta say about that.
The Japanese attacked pearl harbor and killed a buch of soldiers. The United States dropped nuclear bombs on two cities, killing countless innocent civilians and causing irreverable damage to the ecosystem and introducing bio-hazzardous waste into the water supply which causes cancer, mutations, and lots of other bad stuff.

i think the americans were wrong for doing it but it was nessasary for the war to end......bit extreme but needed.

but i still dislike america (not the poeple i know from here) and love japan

i think the americans were wrong for doing it but it was nessasary for the war to end......bit extreme but needed.
but i still dislike america (not the poeple i know from here) and love japanI wouldn't expect anymore from an ignorant European.

I wouldn't expect anymore from an ignorant European.
Most Americans are just as ignorant about their own country, and others.

i think the americans were wrong for doing it but it was nessasary for the war to end......bit extreme but needed.

but i still dislike america (not the poeple i know from here) and love japan
Japanese are fairly racist. While they are poilte in other countries, they will never consider a forigner "one of them". Also, Japan has a high amount of insest and plenty of pedophiles. (This can be discussed in the loli thread, so this one doesn't stay off-topic).

~1,000,000+ lives required to land on the island + ~2,000,000 more to secure japan...

vs.

~500,000 Killed by the two nuclear bombs.

Most Americans are just as ignorant about their own country, and others.
I'm fairly certain that if you asked the average American, he/she would not express a great hate for any European country.
~1,000,000+ lives required to land on the island + ~2,000,000 more to secure japan...
vs.
~500,000 Killed by the two nuclear bombs.I'm glad someone understands; had we not bombed Japan, the war would have taken much longer and around 100,000 allied P.O.W.S. would have lost their lives.

I'm fairly certain that if you asked the average American, he/she would not express a great hate for any European country.

Maybe france, but usually as a joke.

Why should they hate France? France gave you guys the statue of liberty.

Why should they hate France? France gave you guys the statue of liberty.in exchange for...

Nothing really. It was to mark independence.

Nothing really. It was to mark independence.

I hope you aren't serious

I hope you aren't serious
He is Australian, so I can't really blame him.
Liberty Enlightening the World, known more commonly as the Statue of Liberty, is a statue given to the United States by France in 1885, standing at Liberty Island in the mouth of the Hudson River in New York Harbor as a welcome to all visitors, immigrants, and returning Americans. The copper statue, dedicated on October 28, 1886, commemorates the centennial of the United States and is a gesture of friendship between the two nations. The sculptor was Frederic Auguste Bartholdi. Gustave Eiffel, the designer of the Eiffel Tower, engineered the internal structure. Eugène Viollet-le-Duc was responsible for the choice of copper in the statue's construction and adoption of the Repoussé technique. The Statue of Liberty is one of the most recognizable icons of the U.S. worldwide,[1] and, in a more general sense, represents liberty and escape from oppression. The Statue of Liberty was, from 1886 until the Jet age, often the first glimpse of the United States for millions of immigrants after ocean voyages from Europe.

I am.

The war had ended and then Japan bombed Pear Harbour so what you people did was right you ended the war once and for all and kept them damn japanese people in line, then the started whaling again so Greenpeace went in there and "accidently" destroyed one of their whaling ships and killed the whalers damn Japanese.

The war had ended and then Japan bombed Pear Harbour so what you people did was right you ended the war once and for all and kept them damn japanese people in lineWWII had been going on LONG before pearl harbor. WWII started in the Pacific in 1938, followed by the war in Europe in 1939. Pearl Harbor occured on December 7th 1941. nearly 4 years later.then the started whaling again so Greenpeace went in there and "accidently" destroyed one of their whaling ships and killed the whalers damn Japanese.The Japanese never stopped whaling, Thats one of their biggest industries becides electronics. and greenpeace doesnt sink ships.

Instead, greenpeace get their ships sunk (Rainbow warrior).

Well of course Nintendo's established the revolutionised gaming with Donkey Kong
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The Japanese class is going to Japan they are going to some gooky sounding place called Horishima

Do you even KNOW anything about Hiroshima?

so ANYWAY about the bombings....

oh, and that "average american" comment?

screw you buddy, way to make sweeping generalizations , THAT makes you seem well-educated and open-minded

This entire page has had nothing to do with the topic.

Yes, I'm getting there. I can only delete one post at a time.