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Is it because you're all white? No racism.

Why isn't there much hip hop fans on this site? And no I don't mean that bull**** hiphop on MTV and BET...

Real hiphop fans.. any on here?

Not really, no.

Sorry, but hiphop sucks, plain and simple.

lawl, yeah, hip hop = XD

Some of it's ok.

Sorry, but hiphop sucks, plain and simple.

what sucks about it? Please try and be open minded.. you sound like an ignorant fool who doesn't listen to anybody but themselves

I know some of that **** sucks but dont be a hater

barely any of it's okay, most of it is just terrible

what sucks about it? Please try and be open minded.. you sound like an ignorant fool who doesn't listen to anybody but themselves

I know some of that **** sucks but dont be a hater
.

yeah, he basically contradiced himself, what a n00b

what sucks about it? Please try and be open minded.. you sound like an ignorant fool who doesn't listen to anybody but themselves

I know some of that **** sucks but dont be a hater
I'm one of the most open minded people you'll ever enconter. I just don't like Hip Hop.
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You ignorant fool, you. :P

what sucks about it? Please try and be open minded.. you sound like an ignorant fool who doesn't listen to anybody but themselves

I know some of that **** sucks but dont be a hater
I don't like it and probrably everyone else doesn't. If you want to find some hip-hop then go find a forum that talks about it.

I actually like hip-hop, if it's remotely clean. But I like all music, eccept country and bluegrass.

well, not all hip-hop is good, but some of it is, let's leave it at that

ONLY A SLIGHT AMOUNT of hiphop might actually be worth listening to, but no.

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Is it because you're all white? No racism.

Why isn't there much hip hop fans on this site? And no I don't mean that bull**** hiphop on MTV and BET...

Real hiphop fans.. any on here?
I like hip-hop, it's all I listen to.

NICKY! YOU HATE BLUEGRASS? Dude, it originated in my town...:(

hip-hop isn't the most creative name for a type of music

It's because I don't like black people.

It's because I don't like black people.

RASIST RASIST RASIST

sheesh man, don't be so racist XD

It's because I don't like black people.
Don't be hatin' man.

"noob" is such a lame word...

And how is it that I contradicted myself?

I'm asking why some of you guys don't like hiphop.. and I said some of it sucks.. NOT ALL OF IT... 90% of the garbage on BET MTV and radio is wack.. but there is a lot of artist that are underground that make good music.

I'm not talking about 50 cent, mike jones, paul wall, lil jon and all that other crap on tv.

Ryu-Nacho.. You're talking about how you're open minded but then you say "hiphop sucks, plain and simple". And what are you judging that opinion on? Off a few songs you heard? Doesn't seem very open minded to me.

Wait a minute, quick question. How old are all of you?

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Is it because you're all white? No racism.

Why isn't there much hip hop fans on this site? And no I don't mean that bull**** hiphop on MTV and BET...

Real hiphop fans.. any on here?

This forum is full of 2 things:

A bunch of retards who like anime

And me, who is completely normal.

"noob" is such a lame word...

And how is it that I contradicted myself?

I'm asking why some of you guys don't like hiphop.. and I said some of it sucks.. NOT ALL OF IT... 90% of the garbage on BET MTV and radio is wack.. but there is a lot of artist that are underground that make good music.

I'm not talking about 50 cent, mike jones, paul wall, lil jon and all that other crap on tv.

Ryu-Nacho.. You're talking about how you're open minded but then you say "hiphop sucks, plain and simple". And what are you judging that opinion on? Off a few songs you heard? Doesn't seem very open minded to me.

Wait a minute, quick question. How old are all of you?

We don't like it because we don't live in ghettos.

we either live in normal houses in cities, suburbs, or rural areas, or in apartments away from the ghetto

I do hope you're being sarcastic.

Why is there so much negativity in this thread? And Jes-C are you hip-hop yourself?

What do you mean "are you hip-hop yourself?"

Doesn't seem to make much sense...

And you don't have to live in the ghettos to like hiphop.. but I see why you wouldn't since most of the songs don't relate to you... interesting.

Oh BTW... anime is WACK!!

I guess there is now 2 differences between me and the rest of ya'll.

Of course there is.

What do you mean "are you hip-hop yourself?"

Doesn't seem to make much sense...

And you don't have to live in the ghettos to like hiphop.. but I see why you wouldn't since most of the songs don't relate to you... interesting.

Oh BTW... anime is WACK!!

I guess there is now 2 differences between me and the rest of ya'll.
Yeah I know. I wonder why you're taking other people's opinion on hip-hop seriously. See now if you really want to feel smart about this whole situation, I suggest you just shut up and close the thread, because flaming others for what they think isn't going to do you any good.

and this person even denied that all hip-hop is really good themselves

Yes I said some hiphop isn't good.... but there is plenty of good hiphop songs to talk about.. yet this forum has barely any.

Do you guys all like rock or something??

Are you guys all white?

And I haven't even really flamed anyone.. it seems everyone is flaming me first, I didn't even say anything negative about any of you yet...

How old are all of you?

Yes I said some hiphop isn't good.... but there is plenty of good hiphop songs to talk about.. yet this forum has barely any.

Do you guys all like rock or something??

Are you guys all white?

And I haven't even really flamed anyone.. it seems everyone is flaming me first, I didn't even say anything negative about any of you yet...

How old are all of you?

1.Most of us
2.Most of us
3.We're all about 14-19.

I have a question for you, why do you care that we're white and we don't like hip-hop?

Yes I said some hiphop isn't good.... but there is plenty of good hiphop songs to talk about.. yet this forum has barely any.

Do you guys all like rock or something??

Are you guys all white?

And I haven't even really flamed anyone.. it seems everyone is flaming me first, I didn't even say anything negative about any of you yet...

How old are all of you?
Well, we'll put up hip-hop if we feel like if. If you want you can start by starting your own hip-hop thread. As for the age, you can go ahead and check mine's if you want, of course why do you ask the age question when you yourself don't show your age? Plenty of people here are open enough to show their names below their avatar.

Are YOU white Jes-C?

Holy damn, half of you must have but one brain cell to be carrying on this debate. To whoever made that comment about not listening to hip-hop because "we don't live in the ghetto", shut the hell up. That has no bearing on musical taste.

I'm into MF Doom, Aesop Rock, El-P and A Tribe Called Quest. And DJ Shadow if he counts.

No I am not white.

I am 17.

I just find it interesting that most of you like rock and most of you are white.

I guess the main reason you guys don't like rap is because it doesn't apply to you and you probably can't even understand the lyrics..

I listen to mostly rap but I might have a few rock songs that I like.. but I wouldn't be so ignorant to say "all rock sucks" with no reasoning.

I didn't notice the age thing on the side, so I see that most of you are younger than me, so I see why some of you are still ignorant..

but Ryu.. you're 19?? DAMN... that's a damn shame. You're quite ignorant for your age.

Well some rap or as you called it hip-hop, is good. But I just don't like it as much as the music I like.

In my opinion one of the best rap artists was Tupac. Too bad he decided to go and get himself shot.

Meh...he's alright I guess.

hiphop is bad for the society :P

and wack is positive right? stupid negro slang.

I just find it interesting that most of you like rock and most of you are white.
It's not a racial thing. It's a matter of preference. There are many white people who like rap and hip-hop. Likewise, many blacks like other types of music, like rock or techno.
I guess the main reason you guys don't like rap is because it doesn't apply to you and you probably can't even understand the lyrics..
I can understand the lyrics. Thats why I especially dislike rap.
I listen to mostly rap but I might have a few rock songs that I like.. but I wouldn't be so ignorant to say "all rock sucks" with no reasoning.
When I say that hip-hop sucks, it is in reference to what I've heard. There may be good hip-hop, but I've yet to hear it.
I didn't notice the age thing on the side, so I see that most of you are younger than me, so I see why some of you are still ignorant..
Age is not an indication of maturity or intelligence. It is simply a representative number that shows how long you have been alive. Though there is some correlation between the two, using age to judge a person is unfair and inaccurate.
but Ryu.. you're 19?? DAMN... that's a damn shame. You're quite ignorant for your age.
Is judging someone you don't even know not ignorant?

Ok. I think I'm done for a bit.

No I am not white.
Ryu.. you're 19?? DAMN... that's a damn shame. You're quite ignorant for your age.

Ryu is one of the least ignorant people I've ever met...even though I only know him online.

I didn't notice the age thing on the side, so I see that most of you are younger than me, so I see why some of you are still ignorant..

How is not liking hip-hop ignorant? This is based only on what I've heard of it, but it seems to be mostly about sex anyway. That's not very entertaining. :closedeye

you just basically owned him Ryu

The majority of rap fans are middle class white kids.

N.W.A was a good group...

How is not liking hip-hop ignorant? This is based only on what I've heard of it, but it seems to be mostly about sex anyway. That's not very entertaining. :closedeye
Listen to Aesop Rock's Labor Days. It's the complete opposite of commercial "knock up mah *****es in mah pimp**** Escalade" hip-hop you've heard, and it's his most accessible album.

I just find it interesting that most of you like rock and most of you are white.
I find it interesting that you are not white, and you listen to rap.

It's not a racial thing. It's a matter of preference. There are many white people who like rap and hip-hop. Likewise, many blacks like other types of music, like rock or techno.

I can understand the lyrics. Thats why I especially dislike rap.

When I say that hip-hop sucks, it is in reference to what I've heard. There may be good hip-hop, but I've yet to hear it.

Age is not an indication of maturity or intelligence. It is simply a representative number that shows how long you have been alive. Though there is some correlation between the two, using age to judge a person is unfair and inaccurate.

Is judging someone you don't even know not ignorant?

Ok. I think I'm done for a bit.

Ok, I think you just owned the hell out of him right there.

yeah, this person contradicted themself in their own first post in this thread that they made up

Your saying: lawl.

you just basically owned him Ryu
Yep...but let's see if the guy comes back to say something.

he'll probably ask us to prove that he contradicted himself in his own post in this thread

Hey you guys, I wrote a rap song.
*erhm*
SEx!
Drugs!!
Money!
B!tches!
Hoes!
Dang foo'!
More sex!
VIOLENCE
word to your mother.

Believe it or not, that was compiled from lyrics of actual rap/hip hop songs
I don't hate Rap/Hip-hop, I simply dislike it with the indescribable rage of one million atomic explosions...on fire.

I will admit, there are a couple of rap/hip-hop songs that I actually like, all of them are by Gorillaz.

See, the ignorance lies here..

You guys are saying Rap is all about sex, guns, pimping *****es, slang and money

That is where the ignorance kicks in...

Do you guys know rap originated as a type of music with rhythm and beats.

Yes the majority of the rap scene that's on TV is all about violence, guns, sex and money

But there is a lot of underground artist that rhyme about real ****.

If you think rap is all about violence, girls, etc...

Then I could say Rock music is all about being pissed off and mad, or suicidal ****... but is this true? No, it's basically what you guys are saying about rap

And Ryu.. dudes in here are riding your dick like you're their savior (disgusting). It's ignorant for you to say rap sucks based off what you have heard. There is a lot more to explore in the rap world and you've yet to find it.

Rappers like Common, Talib Kweli, Kanye West, Run DMC, Rakim, Nas, Mos Def, don't rap about violence, being gangsta, ****ing the most *****es, or having the most money.

Out of the rappers I just mentioned, how many of you even know half of them?

And I did not contradict myself.. you just can't seem to understand what I'm saying. I said not all rap is good... but there is a lot of good artist out there, just not mainstream and you guys don't know about them. Rap is good enough to be talked about in a forum like this
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I can understand the lyrics. Thats why I especially dislike rap.

When I say that hip-hop sucks, it is in reference to what I've heard. There may be good hip-hop, but I've yet to hear it.


Please listen to a song called "Rewind" by Nas... and tell me that **** isn't creative as hell..

yes a little gun talk is mentioned, so what? It's basically a story told backwards in a song, but it's very creative

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/still/rewind.nas.txt

here are the lyrics if you're too lazy to search for it

No hip-hop because this isn't any of your black negro *cough niga* festivities. We do not allow words like *Pop a cap in yo ***.* We settle for country music, folk. So go to http://www.nigers_suck.org.

I just found out that hip hop and rap are different.

yeah, they are a little different, not too much though

Please listen to a song called "Rewind" by Nas... and tell me that **** isn't creative as hell..

yes a little gun talk is mentioned, so what? It's basically a story told backwards in a song, but it's very creative

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/still/rewind.nas.txt

here are the lyrics if you're too lazy to search for it
That song was all about "killin' a niga" recieving a blowjob, and smoking a join. It backs up almost everything most of us said.

I do hope you're being sarcastic.
No, I'm not.

yeah, they are a little different, not too much though

Hip Hop's more of a "culture" and isn't about pimps, sex, drugs and "wannabe gangstas".

That song was all about "killin' a niga" recieving a blowjob, and smoking a join. It backs up almost everything most of us said.

I wasn't talking about the songs lyrical content, I was talking about it's creativeness.

You cannot deny the creativy used in the song.

If rap is all about gangsta ****

Then rock is all about angry ****

Agree or disagree with the above statement?

Disagree, you're thinking of heavy metal.

I wasn't talking about the songs lyrical content, I was talking about it's creativeness.

You cannot deny the creativy used in the song.

If rap is all about gangsta ****

Then rock is all about angry ****

Agree or disagree with the above statement?
I didn't say that rap is all about gangsta ****, but you have to admit, a great majority of it is, even that song you just posted to defend your point that it isn't.

Jes-C is talking about hip hop though which isn't about being gangsta.

Jes-C is talking about hip hop though which isn't about being gangsta.
Yes, but then he, or someone else, also started talking about rap.

He said listen to a song by Nas who's a rap artist, not a hip hop artist.

He said listen to a song by Nas who's a rap artist, not a hip hop artist.
exactly!

I still don't like black people.

I still don't like black people.
I love how you say that, yet you have Ruby Rhod in your avy and your user title says "freed the slaves" :D

A tad hypocritical there, God.

now we have two hypocritical posts in here, this is turning into the hypocritical post place

Rap is a form of hiphop...

Hiphop is a culture which consist of rap, RnB, break dancing, etc...

So therefore Nas is a rap artist and a hiphop artist..

I didn't say that rap is all about gangsta ****, but you have to admit, a great majority of it is, even that song you just posted to defend your point that it isn't.

Maybe it wasn't you that said it's all about gangsta stuff.. but someone did and I did admit a majority of it is.. A majority that you see on TV or radio

Yes the majority of the rap scene that's on TV is all about violence, guns, sex and money

"Jesus Walks" by Kanye West isn't about those things at all.

"All Falls Down", "Through The Wire", "Family Business", "Last Call", "Touch the Sky", "Drive Slow", "Roses", "Bring Me Down", "Hey Mama".. all by Kanye West does not contain lyrics that you would consider "gangsta"

"Dance" by Nas is a song dedicated to his mother

"I Can" by Nas is also a song without "gangsta" refrences

I'd bet most of you have never even heard of these songs

So don't be so quick to judge rap as a whole just because of what you've seen on TV

Rap is a form of hiphop...

Hiphop is a culture which consist of rap, RnB, break dancing, etc...

So therefore Nas is a rap artist and a hiphop artist..



Maybe it wasn't you that said it's all about gangsta stuff.. but someone did and I did admit a majority of it is.. A majority that you see on TV or radio



"Jesus Walks" by Kanye West isn't about those things at all.

"All Falls Down", "Through The Wire", "Family Business", "Last Call", "Touch the Sky", "Drive Slow", "Roses", "Bring Me Down", "Hey Mama".. all by Kanye West does not contain lyrics that you would consider "gangsta"

"Dance" by Nas is a song dedicated to his mother

"I Can" by Nas is also a song without "gangsta" refrences

I'd bet most of you have never even heard of these songs

So don't be so quick to judge rap as a whole just because of what you've seen on TV
Rap isn't a form of hip hop, the only thing they have in common is the MCs and DJs.

Rap isn't a form of hip hop, the only thing they have in common is the MCs and DJs.

How the hell are you gonna tell me?

MCs are rappers.. smart one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music

More on Hip Hop

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop

Please listen to a song called "Rewind" by Nas... and tell me that **** isn't creative as hell..

yes a little gun talk is mentioned, so what? It's basically a story told backwards in a song, but it's very creative

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/still/rewind.nas.txt

here are the lyrics if you're too lazy to search for it
Please don't try to prove anymore points with lyrics that actually prove the exact opposite of what you were trying to prove in the first place [any[/B] sense? XD]]...those lyrics are [I]disgusting, and only make me want to avoid all music like that for the rest of my life. Because you said that that song is an example of rap that is "different" than the rap that is popular at the moment. Yes, it is different. I would say it is worse. :closedeye

Actually I agree with the original poster, Mos Def is a pretty talented rapper/artist in general.

Please don't try to prove anymore points with lyrics that actually prove the exact opposite of what you were trying to prove in the first place [any[/B] sense? XD]]...those lyrics are [I]disgusting, and only make me want to avoid all music like that for the rest of my life. Because you said that that song is an example of rap that is "different" than the rap that is popular at the moment. Yes, it is different. I would say it is worse. :closedeye

I used that song as an example of creativity in rap music... I wasn't talking about the lyrics... stupid *****.

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/gods_son/dance.nas.txt

Got anything to hate on in that song??

And yes I'm getting hostile because I've recieved nothing but hate since the day I got to this website.. the only one who seems to give hiphop a chance is terrelbot and i respect that

I used that song as an example of creativity in rap music... I wasn't talking about the lyrics... stupid *****.

dude, stop freakin out.
1. The main point you were arguing before you posted that song was that there was real rap that wasn't just about guns, sex, and drugs. So its pretty easy to get confused when you post a song like that.
Ryu-Nacho said
I can understand the lyrics. Thats why I especially dislike rap
And your response was this song.
http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/still/rewind.nas.txt

So don't freak out at us when you are the one having trouble sticking to one point.

http://ohhla.com/anonymous/nas/gods_son/dance.nas.txt

Got anything to hate on in that song??

That=an okay song. Its really just not my favorite style of music. The kind of rap I like is rap where the lyrics aren't just talking, and there is an involved melody and good instrumentals, and that is what most rap and hip-hop is missing.
And yes I'm getting hostile because I've recieved nothing but hate since the day I got to this website
Don't worry so much about it, alot of people here are complete twits.

stupid *****.That doesn't help to prove that rap is not just about money or the objectification of women.

I actually listen to quite a bit of rap, but I disagree with your opinion on it. You say
I just find it interesting that most of you like rock and most of you are white. as if there is something wrong with that. What about you? You're not white and you do not listen to rock, are we allowed to bash you for not having a variety of musical preferences?

That doesn't help to prove that rap is not just about money or the objectification of women.

I actually listen to quite a bit of rap, but I disagree with your opinion on it. You say as if there is something wrong with that. What about you? You're not white and you do not listen to rock, are we allowed to bash you for not having a variety of musical preferences?

I didn't say there anything wrong with listening to rock and being white. How do you know I don't listen to rock? I have a few songs that I like that is Rock.

That=an okay song. Its really just not my favorite style of music. The kind of rap I like is rap where the lyrics aren't just talking, and there is an involved melody and good instrumentals, and that is what most rap and hip-hop is missing.

You can't really judge a song by reading the lyrics, because you'll have to listen to it, I know you're probably not gonna listen to that song, so I just posted the lyrics.

Yes I agree most people here being "twits"

I'm just saying... most of ya'll aren't giving hiphop and chance and quick to drop opinions that aren't true.. it's like stereotypes. Whatever, I don't really care anymore, it's not like this thread is gonna make any of you change your minds anyways.

So I'm done with it.. I think the main reason why you guys don't like rap is because it doesn't relate to you very well. At least diet poop came with something reasonable unlike the rest of you guys who just said "hiphop is trash, it's all about guns, sex and violence"

Sorry, but hiphop sucks, plain and simple.

im with stupid

Rap isn't music. Rap is people reading poetry to a beat.

I like some hip-hop. I hate Jes-c.

you just basically owned him Ryu

your nose must be several different shades of brown right now.



i love rap, hip-hop, poetry slams, etc.

but with most genres, you have to be selective and weed out the bad.

aka, del the funky homosapien is a lyrical genius. and there are few cd's that can compete with nas' stillmatic/illmatic group.

p.s. this is what part of the alphabet would look like if q and r were eliminated.

p.p.s. ryu doesnt act like he's 19 that's for sure.

p.p.p.s. the person who made this thread is just as ignorant as everyone he states to be ignorant.