I found an article about the new nintendo system on nintendo.com



Nintendo, the world leader in video game innovation, stated loud and clear that they are not to be overlooked in the next generation home console race with the revelation of several unique features of the company's next console system, code name Revolution, to key media outlets. According to the early information, Revolution will combine powerful technology and gaming-focused features in Nintendo's smallest home game console yet.



In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer. The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.



Thanks to Nintendo's hardware development partners IBM and ATI, the small system will be packed with power that will enable it to wow players with its graphics. Nintendo's legions of loyal fans will be happy to learn that Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube 8cm disks along with its own 12cm optical disks in the same self-loading media drive.



In the next generation, the addition of the Internet will be important to all consoles and particularly important to Nintendo. Revolution will be wireless Internet ready out of the box.



There's much more to Revolution that will be revealed over the coming months, but the combination of its compact size, wireless Internet, backward compatibility, quick start-up time and quiet, low-power operation add up to the start of a great game system. Get ready for the Nintendo Revolution in 2006!

great move on Nintendo's part to use full size discs and the Internet. it's good to be unique, but it shouldn't hold the system back like the gamecube. i hope the revolution is a good seller

NINTENDO RULES!!!!!!Sony Drools...

AWSOME! WIRELESS INTERNET!

this is really pathetic....

AWSOME! WIRELESS INTERNET!

If it were Sony coming out with this, I might have been just excited.
Sony did come out with it.....
on PSP.

STOP IT!!!!!

you people make me sick with yur little flame war here.

Now, this 'Revoultion' sounds pretty cool, but im happy with my DS. But it sounds cool.

Sony did come out with it.....
on PSP.
O ya... Forget I said it.

Hmmmm...Nintendo claims to be the worlds leading video game innovater, but that is a total falsehood:
1. Backwards compatibilty was first done with PS2, which play PS2 and PSX games.
2. Horizontal and vertical stand. Also done by PS2.
3. Sony is currently the dominating force in the video game industry.
The only original thing they did is the DS, but that doesn't count because it sucks.

Actually, it's kinda funny...Playstation was originally a co-op project between Nintendo and Sony. If only Nintendo realized how big of a success it would've been BEFORE they pulled out.
Hehehehe...

i can't wait to see pictures of this new nintendo console.....anyone see any pictures, or maybe prototypes?

Nintendo has kept their lips sealed pretty well. No leaks that I've heard of, so far.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, they present at e3 first thing tomorrow morning, so I'm sure we'll get a glimpse at it then.

EDIT:

Well.. I guess it's technically *this* morning ;)

cool i want to see what it looks like

I seriously doubt that this is a real pic, but...
These are supposed controllers for the Revolution, one for each hand. Thats really, really weird. It'd be kinda neat though...for people who jerk around and get into their games, this might be the greatest controller ever.
But I still think it's fake.

Look how kewl the revolution is
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/a2349869-6c75-44fe-aaa7-8dfa351a9c90.jpg

looks like a futuristic version of PS2

bUT BETTER SEE that white thing you put it in there and you can take it out and stuff kewl huh

i really hope those are the controlers. that would be so sweet.
im happy they finally decided to start making their systems look a little more mature.
I dont think any of them company's suck. As long as their all competting to make the best, ill always have something to play.

they sure have given a lot of hype to this "revolution of gaming"
a lot of people (like me) are expecting something very innovative
i hope whatever they are doing can live up to it

also, here's a video that was floating around a few days ago (we know for sure that it is a fake now)....pretty cool in my opinion

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000180043335/

edit: hehe, looks like they got their share of bandwidth use this month :P you can still see the video here (http://www.missouri.edu/~bah347/gprime/nintendoon.wmv)

I thionk that nintendo Revolution and Xbox 360 will sell better than PS3 beacus eof these reasons
1. all PLaystations and their games are similar
2. the PS3 controls look uncomfterbul and confusing
3. the PS3 is ugly and looks is a big part in the market
4. the XBox 360 and Revolution waited fro a big event to reveal it self creating more hype but the PS3 has just been floating around

So for these 4 reasons and many more the PS3 will be the worst selling in the next generation of gaming consoles adn Nintendo and microsoft will be the best mainly nintendo the best

i cant wait for the Revolution, going to be absolutly amazing! also the brand new DS games and gamecube games look cool

Look how kewl the revolution is
http://media.nintendo.com/mediaFiles/a2349869-6c75-44fe-aaa7-8dfa351a9c90.jpg

It looks cool but how big is it?

i also herd they have already designed a new game boy. I dont know any thing about it thats just what i herd.

anyway...

I read an article in my newspaper that you would be able to download the older nintendo games (the NES, SNES, and N64 games are going to be up for downloading) and play them on the revolution. And by the way Ryu, the ps2 wasn't the first game system to be backwards compatible. That would be the Game Boy Color in 1998. and whalnut, they have unveiled the Game boy Micro. that will be the first game boy that no one will care about unless the big n cancels it and brings out a REAL game boy. like a all new one.


on a different note, who else can name systems that were backward compatible? it only counts if it predates the GBC.

Oh, you're right. GBC was before PS2.
Silly me.

I can think of one before that, another Nintendo thing. I don't know what it's called, but it was an expansion for the original NES, sorta. It allowed you to save any game you played, improved the graphics drive on the NES, and allowed it to play new games that they made.
But then Sega came out with Genesis. Nintendo canceled the expansion project and released SNES instead. The expansion thing is very, very rare, and considered a collector's item.
So, I don't know if that counts as backwards compatibilty, but it's a nice random bit of trivia none the less.

To Wahlum: I don't know about any new Game Boys...you may have heard of the "Portable Gamecube" though, or something like that. There is a random guy who is good with machines, and makes portable versions of home consoles for himself.

Game Boy Micro (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050517/latu048.html)

for anyone who saw the Nintendo ON video that i posted a link to earlier.......there is speculation that there might be something to that video

http://mozlapunk.web-log.nl/log/2569742

its pretty cool ill buy it after i get mah ps3 (well that is if sony isnt lying about the non prerendered movies). i like the size it fits into ur pocket and they said it will be even smaller for the finnal version.

The PS3 is ugly look at it it makes you wanna hurl like proim's avatar i hate the look XBOX 360 is ok by Revolution is better than both

It's a god dam grill for christ sake.

yeah that was funny george forman aproved

Nintendo revolution also has some competitors like X-box 360 and PS3.
A good gaming system would have good graphics and will also be easy to use and also be playable.

we know about the competition we already ahve threads about them too lets look at the revolution
Good Graphics
Easier to use than the PS3 (look at the controllers)

Yeah it looks like the Revolution will be the best

omfg omfg omfg

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/...578/vids_1.html

linked, just wait throught he dumb jeep ad first

so the revloution is pretty damn cool and nintendo is the world's leader in video games so nah

I know Nintendo will be the best system out there when it comes out with Revolution. The name itself shows how it is going to change itself around a lot. Before, Nintendo was appealing to younger crowds, what with Mario and such. But, these aren't kids games. How many of you still play your NES Super Mario games? I know I do.

But, as we could see by Resident Evil 4, it's amazingly gorey graphics, and it's plain old amazing graphics period, GameCube realized its power too late. Withe the New Legend of Zelda Game coming soon (hopefully) We will see Nintendos return to dominance.

All I gotta say

Nintendo better not ruin the Revolution like they did with the DS, or even the VIRTUAL BOY, or we're gonna have a big ol' upset. either way, we're gonna have an upset. cause no one will buy the PS3 if it doesn't even work, or s just too expensive. sony's gonna have to make it up to us if they're gonna win this generation. so all i have to say is...




GO NINTENDO!!!

sony Will Kill Nintendo!!!

I've just found out the revoulution will have DVD sized disks and may have gyroscope controllers!beat that sony and microsoft!

sony Will Kill Nintendo!!!

Wrong it's the other way round nintendo will kill sony

With the New Legend of Zelda Game coming soon (hopefully) We will see Nintendos return to dominance.

All I gotta say THe Legend of Zeld: The Twilight Princess is gonna be coming out anywhere from october to decemeber and the revolution will come out anywhere between januray - march '06 depending when TTP is released

nintendo is doing bad at the E3 conference, but they have all these new things coming out.
like the new version of the GBA its called the GBmicro its no bigger than two GBA cartriges put together.
i like the new feature on revolution, that u can download any game that came out on any of the nintendo consle.

for whoever said that the ps2 was the first system with backward compatability, they're wrong. although i love ps2, nintendo had the first (to my knowledge), when the GameBoy Pocket, could play GameBoy games... or, GameBoy Colour, playing Gameboy games...

but i highly doubt those controllers are real... >_<

Nintendo has everything first

as usual...

I think the revolution may play old console games like NES games


Found that on www.nintendorevolution.co.uk

too late to post that.

Revolution is gonna be sweet. Ive been tryin to get info on the controllers but didnt find much. One thing i did find tho is a former nintendo employe who was re hired to help development with the revolution. He said that their getting rid of buttons and they are trying to make it 2 seperate controllers (1 for each hand). He said it the controllers will probly be similar to playing with a stress ball as a controller.

And the GBmicro weighs 2.8 ounces. Its 2in * 4in * .7in
"Just a hair smaller then the ipod mini and 2/3 the weight." Miramoto ( i think thats his name.)

Miramoto = Miyamoto = Shigeru Miyamoto = Creator of Mario and therefore Luigi, Yoshi, etc., LoZ and therefore Link, Zelda, Ganon, etc. Donkey Kong, Star Fox and therefore Fox, Falco, Slippy, etc. and many of Nintendo's flagship titles.

thanks for the correction

Miyamoto is the only person people talk about on my ither forum and one guy really hates aounamia (piece of nintendo **** created the happy cartoony Zelda Games)

heres a video with the gbmicro and the reason why the controller is a big secret




http://media.cube.ign.com/media/716/716495/vids_1.html

Revolution is gonna be sweet. Ive been tryin to get info on the controllers but didnt find much. One thing i did find tho is a former nintendo employe who was re hired to help development with the revolution. He said that their getting rid of buttons and they are trying to make it 2 seperate controllers (1 for each hand). He said it the controllers will probly be similar to playing with a stress ball as a controller.

And the GBmicro weighs 2.8 ounces. Its 2in * 4in * .7in
"Just a hair smaller then the ipod mini and 2/3 the weight." Miramoto ( i think thats his name.)

dude i saw a pic of somthing like that exaclty how u describe it but i though it was fake ill try to findit again

Nintendo are trying to release the revolution at a low price so that it can be affordable it will be feleased at around $250 $300 max and the Ps3 and XBOX 360 will be released around the 400s so u tell me what will suceed in the next generation affordable, not so affordable

I got some pics for you guys

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/9346/nint12mr.jpg

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/9818/nint22qp.jpg

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/8720/nint31sy.jpg

and heres the micro

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/7206/gbmicro12dy.jpg

i found pics of the controller

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontroller.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollertop.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollerside2.jpg


looks impossible to use

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollerside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollerfront.jpg

they are the computer generation of the model for the controller. mah freind that works at noa sent me them

I thionk that nintendo Revolution and Xbox 360 will sell better than PS3 beacus eof these reasons
1. all PLaystations and their games are similar
2. the PS3 controls look uncomfterbul and confusing
3. the PS3 is ugly and looks is a big part in the market
4. the XBox 360 and Revolution waited fro a big event to reveal it self creating more hype but the PS3 has just been floating around

So for these 4 reasons and many more the PS3 will be the worst selling in the next generation of gaming consoles adn Nintendo and microsoft will be the best mainly nintendo the best
That was the most biased thing I have ever heard in my life. The ps3 looks nice to me for one. The controler is a prototype. The biggest mistake is the games thing. Playstations have the widest variety and as or the last 5 years, majority of the best games out. Please come out of your little Nintendo fanbase and smell the real world. They were beat last time and just like EVERYONE (journalism wise) is speculating, the ps3 will do the best... do you not watch any news? Everyone is talking about the PS3. Xbox 360? people are calling it the Xbox 1.5 because the graphics arnt as good as they were expecting. Microsoft has proven to not be in touch with the gaming community like they should in the past, why would people give them that chance again? And as for Nintendo, I live 'em but just about everyone is doubting them int he news right now. With only one GC game that people are hyped over, the slightly disapointing Revolution reveal, and the new gamebo micro... wow, a SMALLER gameboy, they just havnt impressed to much at e3 this year. I mean they wont tell crap ab the Revolution. Peopla are making their decisions over ps3 or xbox now and nintendo isnt showing theur stuff fast enough, they are being left behind. They need to hurry up.

nintendo is pretty much campaining to be your "second console"
they want everyone to choose between xbox and ps3, then purchase a Revolution for nintendo's first party games

thats exaclty what im doing im getting xbox 360 with mah money and revolution for x mas if it comes out before then like nintendo always does

yeah, those aren't the controllers so you can just stop posting them and saying that they are thanks. :happy:

yeah, those aren't the controllers so you can just stop posting them and saying that they are thanks. :happy:


Right someone juse opened a 3D modeling program and went to town......i mean look at it, its crap, prolly used Maya.

and how do those pics represent something similar to a stress ball with no buttons like i mentioned?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollerside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/Puppetpallmich/revolutioncontrollerfront.jpg

they are the computer generation of the model for the controller. mah freind that works at noa sent me them looks Like a fraud to me

That was the most biased thing I have ever heard in my life. The ps3 looks nice to me for one. The controler is a prototype. The biggest mistake is the games thing. Playstations have the widest variety and as or the last 5 years, majority of the best games out. Please come out of your little Nintendo fanbase and smell the real world. They were beat last time and just like EVERYONE (journalism wise) is speculating, the ps3 will do the best... do you not watch any news? Everyone is talking about the PS3. Xbox 360? people are calling it the Xbox 1.5 because the graphics arnt as good as they were expecting. Microsoft has proven to not be in touch with the gaming community like they should in the past, why would people give them that chance again? And as for Nintendo, I live 'em but just about everyone is doubting them int he news right now. With only one GC game that people are hyped over, the slightly disapointing Revolution reveal, and the new gamebo micro... wow, a SMALLER gameboy, they just havnt impressed to much at e3 this year. I mean they wont tell crap ab the Revolution. Peopla are making their decisions over ps3 or xbox now and nintendo isnt showing theur stuff fast enough, they are being left behind. They need to hurry up.

Are you an Ignorant X-box fan like my friend Korey Harper is? then call 1-800-HYPOCRITE! Nintendo has been around longer than Microsoft and Sony. Remember what happened to the Master System? they were beaten here. Remeber Lynx, Game Gear, TurboExpress, and countless other portable systems? they were beaten by the unstoppable duo of the Game Boy and Tetris.

or are you one of those PS2 fans who can't get enough of crap games and even crappier durability? well, you've been tricked out of your mind.

in short, nintendo has been around for much longer, and is therefore better. they've just been making wrong choices for the past four-five years.

Where the **** did you come from? You are a moron for one if you think nintendo will come out on top. I AM A NINTENDO FAN. I have never owned anything but nintendo systems. I never once said nintendo sucked or that their games suck or anything like that. But they have been making bad decisions lately and they will pay for them. Unless they show us somthgin amazing then this "revolution" could really sink. Stfu and stick to your own conversations, that was in reply to the person that made the prediction that nintendo would kick as in pretty much every area.

And where the **** did you get that im a xbox fan? i sayd they were not at all in touch with the gaming community you dumb ****.

[QUOTE=Ryu-Nacho]Hmmmm...Nintendo claims to be the worlds leading video game innovater, but that is a total falsehood:
1. Backwards compatibilty was first done with PS2, which play PS2 and PSX games.
2. Horizontal and vertical stand. Also done by PS2.
3. Sony is currently the dominating force in the video game industry.
The only original thing they did is the DS, but that doesn't count because it sucks.

Actually, it's kinda funny...Playstation was originally a co-op project between Nintendo and Sony. If only Nintendo realized how big of a success it would've been BEFORE they pulled out.
Hehehehe...[/

Hmmmmm... you claim Sony is the best GAME company when they dont make GAMES.
1.backwards compatibility was first done with the gameboy and gameboy pocket. get it right
2. Who gives a **** how it stands your not looking at the system when you play it.
3.Sony is currently the dominating force of home systems. Nintendo is still kicking ass with the DS. the Ds is not crap. it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Nintendo brought the gaming back to America and Europe after a cock up in the late 70s. Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
You are very wrong when you say they arent original. the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT!

When are you people gonna realize that each system has something different to offer. THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. PSP AND DS ARE TWO TOTALY DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. each company has something good about them. thats why they are all still here. and they will all be here for a long time. THEY ALL KICK ASS.

[QUOTE=Ryu-Nacho]Hmmmm...Nintendo claims to be the worlds leading video game innovater, but that is a total falsehood:
1. Backwards compatibilty was first done with PS2, which play PS2 and PSX games.
2. Horizontal and vertical stand. Also done by PS2.
3. Sony is currently the dominating force in the video game industry.
The only original thing they did is the DS, but that doesn't count because it sucks.

Actually, it's kinda funny...Playstation was originally a co-op project between Nintendo and Sony. If only Nintendo realized how big of a success it would've been BEFORE they pulled out.
Hehehehe...[/

Hmmmmm... you claim Sony is the best GAME company when they dont make GAMES.
1.backwards compatibility was first done with the gameboy and gameboy pocket. get it right
2. Who gives a **** how it stands your not looking at the system when you play it.
3.Sony is currently the dominating force of home systems. Nintendo is still kicking ass with the DS. the Ds is not crap. it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Nintendo brought the gaming back to America and Europe after a cock up in the late 70s. Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
You are very wrong when you say they arent original. the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT!


Actually, the sega saturn was the first online. the dreamcast was the first to really go public with it, and the gamecube only has 2 online games.

Actually, the sega saturn was the first online. the dreamcast was the first to really go public with it, and the gamecube only has 2 online games.
It depends on how you define 'Online'. The Sega Genesis had the ability to network with a central server back in 1993 over cable tv networks.

yo dudes, im thinking between XBOX360 and revolution,(definently getting PS3) but anywayz are they ganna have like new games for R or is it gunna be just like SP wher therz no new games but you can play old ones

PS3 is gonna suck i reckon but anywho i'm getting Nintendo revolution and Xbox 360 why get PS3 when you can get the 2 best revolution and 360

That was the most biased thing I have ever heard in my life. The ps3 looks nice to me for one. The controler is a prototype. The biggest mistake is the games thing. Playstations have the widest variety and as or the last 5 years, majority of the best games out. Please come out of your little Nintendo fanbase and smell the real world. They were beat last time and just like EVERYONE (journalism wise) is speculating, the ps3 will do the best... do you not watch any news? Everyone is talking about the PS3. Xbox 360? people are calling it the Xbox 1.5 because the graphics arnt as good as they were expecting. Microsoft has proven to not be in touch with the gaming community like they should in the past, why would people give them that chance again? And as for Nintendo, I live 'em but just about everyone is doubting them int he news right now. With only one GC game that people are hyped over, the slightly disapointing Revolution reveal, and the new gamebo micro... wow, a SMALLER gameboy, they just havnt impressed to much at e3 this year. I mean they wont tell crap ab the Revolution. Peopla are making their decisions over ps3 or xbox now and nintendo isnt showing theur stuff fast enough, they are being left behind. They need to hurry up.no that controller is the real one read it somewere

I got some pics for you guys

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/9346/nint12mr.jpg

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/9818/nint22qp.jpg

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/8720/nint31sy.jpg

and heres the micro

http://img285.echo.cx/img285/7206/gbmicro12dy.jpg5 different coulors for revolution! ps3 will only have three!

that is a fake fake fake control quadgameman you are wrong the controler will look like a nintendo 64 system which you all have to admit was the best system ever be honost

Puppet was the one that originally posted the controller so why are you yell at Quadgameman?

because he was the one that insulted our I.Q. points!
puppet was the one that brought it up, though.

because he said that that controller was real

Uhhhhh...... I thought he said the PS3 controller was real.

why would he say that in the nintendo revolution thread

I don't know but read it they were talking about the PS3 for a little bit.

5 different coulors for revolution! ps3 will only have three!
The XBox 360 will have custom prints! Hehe.

Did you guys hear about the games for the Revolution? IGN says all these games will come out within the next couple years or so for the revolution:
Animal Crossing Revolution
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Revolution
Kid Icarus Revolution
Killing Day
King Kong
Legend of Zelda Revolution
Mario Revolution
Metroid Prime 3
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Super Smash Bros. Revolution
The Darkness
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4

those games sound cool

Smash Bros. W0ot!
Nintendo On (http://www.missouri.edu/~bah347/gprime/nintendoon.wmv) sound like a good idea. :happy:

Smash Bros. W0ot!
Nintendo On (http://www.missouri.edu/~bah347/gprime/nintendoon.wmv) sound like a good idea. :happy:

^heh, you used the "missouri.edu" linkage that isharted kindly allowed me to host that vid at for my thread. Hehe!

John posted that at NintendoON.com (http://www.nintendoon.com). Why on Earth did he buy that domain? Just for 1 vid? wow...

Yeah...Smash Bros, Zelda and Metroid Prime 3 all sound sweet.

And Splinter Cell will allow it to contend with the other 2 consoles a little better, even tho Splinter Cell games are mediocre IMO.


If you guys got a revolution, which color would you get? I'd probably go with white, or maybe red, but they all look sweet! :happy:

i think john had a few free domains coming his way, and that was his first excuse to use one. the video is still hosted by my university at nintendoon.com

hehe, my university is so nice for hosing this for me, really saves on bandwidth.....if only they knew about it, muhahahahaha

anyway, i hope the mario game is a lot more like mario 64 and a lot less like mario sunshine. mario games are still my favorite nintendo games, although zelda is up there

that is a fake fake fake control quadgameman you are wrong the controler will look like a nintendo 64 system which you all have to admit was the best system ever be honosti never said they were the real controllers It was just something I found that wasn't not true

Acording to spong the revolution relese date is for North America november 2006,Japan december 2006 And europe march 2007. (don't have a go at me if it's wrong its only what I found)

Acording to spong the revolution relese date is for North America november 2006,Japan december 2006 And europe march 2007. (don't have a go at me if it's wrong its only what I found)
Wow, that's really late...

XBox 360's coming out late 2005, I believe. (don't quote me on that, that's just how I remeber it.)

And I'm pretty sure PS3's coming out before then as well...

Maybe, as someone previously said, this is part of their campaign to be your "secondary" console. Choose between XBox 360 and PS3 now, muster funds for a Revolution, then buy one late 2006...

Hmmmmm... you claim Sony is the best GAME company when they dont make GAMES.
I thought sony made some games for the launch of both their systems. Perhaps I am mistaken...
2. Who gives a **** how it stands your not looking at the system when you play it.
Physical structure plays an important role in system mobility and attractiveness, which, believe it or not, is important for developers to get right to increase their sales. Plus, it's just nice to have a good-looking system.
Nintendo is still kicking ass with the DS. the Ds is not crap.
Sales figures for the Sony PSP are competitive with that of the DS. Get your facts straight...
it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Okay, that is just blatantly wrong. The PSP not only has a bigger screen, it also has much greater screen resolution, which is A LOT easier on the eyes. I was playing Asphalt on my DS today...it's really hard to see clearly enough to tell what's ahead of you...
Bet you can't find this!
"Everything the PSP does and more"? Ah, hell no! Waaaaaaaaay wrong...
Can the DS play UMD movies?
Can the DS store photos?
Does the DS double as an IPod?
Can the DS store video uploaded off a computer?
Does the DS have graphics that are even remotely as good as the PSP's?
Does the DS have...any...good games? I've played Mario 64, Ridge Racer, Asphalt, YuGiOh, WarioWare, and Yoshi Touch-and-Go, and most of them were only entertaining for about 15 minutes...some weren't entertaining at all...mario 64 was pretty fun, but there's nothing to do once you get all the stars...the minigames get old, and Asphalt was fun as well.

The DS will get better once Metroid Prime and Animal Crossing come out with full online playability.

And what does the DS have over the PSP?
The PSP has wireless and online play, just as the DS does (or will).
Pictochat with people standing within an 80-foot radius of you? pfft.

As far as I know, the only thing the DS has over PSP is 2 screens...and a touch screen. Hooray...

If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
Heh. Yeah, that seems real likely...You need to face the facts.
Fact: The Gamecube was a great and powerful console.
Fact: It boasted a multitude of great first-party games.
Fact: The PS2 outsold it badly....

The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT!
If you're going to correct someone, make sure your facts are accurate first. Otherwise you'll sound like a complete idiot...







Not a Nintendo fanboy. Geesh.

revolution is gonna be the best

because he said that that controller was real
No I didn't I posted: looks like a fraud.stop haveing a go at me you ****ing *******

not what you said up there wanker you said it was real

not what you said up there wanker you said it was real
^Did you just call him a "wanker"?

not what you said up there wanker you said it was realNo it says it was what I found that wasn't true

o sorry i may have come across as a jerk, loser, wanker, arsehole etc. but i read one post where you said something was real and i jumped onto it and sorry quadgameman

That looks pretty awesome but having 2 controllers could be a little bit fijity if ya no what i mean

quote crazy hampster
Hmmmmm... you claim Sony is the best GAME company when they dont make GAMES.
1.backwards compatibility was first done with the gameboy and gameboy pocket. get it right
2. Who gives a **** how it stands your not looking at the system when you play it.
3.Sony is currently the dominating force of home systems.Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
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the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT![/QUOTE]


Ok i think you are a DUMB**** backwards compatability with gb and gb pocket isnt **** were there ANY gb pocket games that you couldnt play on old gamboy? no the wasnt.

yes your not looking at the system while you play it but what if you dont ahve room to put your system flat sumplace? you cant do that with any other system xcept the original nes

nintendo didnt have the first in any of those game types. u have to think back to the ataris and older systems.

wavwe bird WAS NOT THE FIRST WIRELESS ****IN CONTROLER U ****IN IDIOT if u dont belive me ill find my old wireless nes and sega controlers.

and maybe just maybe theres a reason there hasnt been a GOOD final fantasy on a nintendo system since ff3 and the release of ff1/2 on gba.

The revolution may wirelessly connect with ds as this picture demonstrates

that sounds like a good idea

that sounds like a good ideaYeah? but its not garanteed

what with the pic it looks like trash

the pic does look horrible but it sounds like a good idea linking your DS to your revolution

Typically I would never buy a Nintendo product (I am more of a Sony and Microsoft guy) but I would want this for the ability to play older games. That would be freaking sweet because there are so many great old games. Plus we have a huge TV it would make it even more awesome.

Anyone know what the prices for older games would be?

I am Nintendo fan and Microsoft fan..
Nintendo gets copied....
Sony stole nintendo's Joystick... :Confuzzle

coz they know that nintendo is the best that's why they copy them
nintendo revolution you get to download older games with their special cables you don't need to but them at least that's what i read

nintendo revolution you get to download older games with their special cables you don't need to buy them at least that's what i read

Your invisitext color is off.
The correct color is #f5f5ff.
But anyways, that is incorrect. Nintendo announced that you will have to buy the games, although little has been said regarding the pricing. (I vaguely remember hearing that the prices will be between $2 and $30 US, but I can't be certain)

Here is the source quote:

There's some disappointing news for those expecting these classics to be available for free. Nintendo is planning on pay downloads as being the standard for this download system. There will be many types of services, though, including limited time free downloads. One possibility mentioned by Iwata is free downloads as bonuses for buying new games.
And this (http://cube.ign.com/articles/622/622870p1.html) is the webpage I got it from. Case closed.

Anyways, let me show you some more of the highlights of that article:

Backwards compatibility for GameCube goes beyond just the software. You'll be able to use all controllers (Wave Bird included), memory cards, the Mario Party microphone, the Dance Dance dance pad and even the Donkey Konga konga controller.

Aside from general specifications, three main areas of the system have yet to be revealed: the shape and functionality of the controller, the price and release date and the software lineup. Nintendo has held back on these areas for competitive reasons, but all three will be revealed before the end of the year.

The controller in particular seems to be getting quite a bit of attention, with Nintendo software master Shigeru Miyamoto commenting at the press conference that the company is making a big investment in creating the device. Iwata added, "I think you will be surprised by the Revolution's controller."


w00t! Compatable with old controllers! Yeah!

And more and more mystery revolves around the controller. Oh, and Iwata said "controller", not "controllers". Does this confirm that there will only be one? Or is he just toying with us?

Arrr! Can't wait!

Hurry up, Nintendo!

whatever it is it will be awsome

Here are a few game titles for Revolution:

Mario Revolution
Medroid prime 3
Legend of zelda Revolution :D :pile:
Super Smash Bros Revolution
Donkey Kong Revolution
Final fantasy Crystal Chronicles Revolution


And these are the leaked but maybe not real specs:

Duel core 1.8 GHz Processors (Output of 3.6 GHz together)
512 KB L2 Cache
1.2 GHz Front Side Bus (FSB)
600 MHz ATI Graphics Chip
12 MB of SRAM
256 MB of main DRAM
7.1 Surround Sound
6 GB duel layer HP/Panasonic disc format

that sounds nerdily cool

Another great feture of revolution:The downloadable games will have graphic enhancers :D

Nintendo are trying to release the revolution at a low price so that it can be affordable it will be feleased at around $250 $300 max and the Ps3 and XBOX 360 will be released around the 400s so u tell me what will suceed in the next generation affordable, not so affordable
The PS3 is said to be released at $299 and all you nintendo geeks who say nintendo is the world's leader in video games are dumdasses. Its the leader in portible systems but that will change cause of the PSP. DS AND REVOLUTION SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

[/QUOTE]the Ds is not crap. it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Nintendo brought the gaming back to America and Europe after a cock up in the late 70s. Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
You are very wrong when you say they arent original. the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT![/QUOTE]

GC was not the first online u retard!
X Box, then PS2, THEN FINALLY THE CRAPPY Gamecube, it doesnt even have more than 1 online game!

DS can't do what PSP does u moron! CAn it play movies, music, actual 3d graphics not pixel ****!!!

[QUOTE=quadgameman]Here are a few game titles for Revolution:

Mario Revolution
Medroid prime 3
Legend of zelda Revolution :D :pile:
Super Smash Bros Revolution
Donkey Kong Revolution
Final fantasy Crystal Chronicles Revolution



Nintenod really needs new game name ideas...

Everything ending in DS for the Ds
Everything ending in Revolution for Revolution...COME ON!!!!

the revolution at the end is just a pre-release title i doubt they will all have revolution in the title

That was the most biased thing I have ever heard in my life. The ps3 looks nice to me for one. The controler is a prototype. The biggest mistake is the games thing. Playstations have the widest variety and as or the last 5 years, majority of the best games out. Please come out of your little Nintendo fanbase and smell the real world. They were beat last time and just like EVERYONE (journalism wise) is speculating, the ps3 will do the best... do you not watch any news? Everyone is talking about the PS3. Xbox 360? people are calling it the Xbox 1.5 because the graphics arnt as good as they were expecting. Microsoft has proven to not be in touch with the gaming community like they should in the past, why would people give them that chance again? And as for Nintendo, I live 'em but just about everyone is doubting them int he news right now. With only one GC game that people are hyped over, the slightly disapointing Revolution reveal, and the new gamebo micro... wow, a SMALLER gameboy, they just havnt impressed to much at e3 this year. I mean they wont tell crap ab the Revolution. Peopla are making their decisions over ps3 or xbox now and nintendo isnt showing theur stuff fast enough, they are being left behind. They need to hurry up.
Your wrong.. Who released Mario? Who released the Legend of Zelda? Who released Resident Evil 4? Who released Super Smash Brothers? All Nintendo.

[QUOTE=quadgameman]Here are a few game titles for Revolution:

Mario Revolution
Medroid prime 3
Legend of zelda Revolution :D :pile:
Super Smash Bros Revolution
Donkey Kong Revolution
Final fantasy Crystal Chronicles Revolution



Nintenod really needs new game name ideas...

Everything ending in DS for the Ds
Everything ending in Revolution for Revolution...COME ON!!!!
They don't even really have a games list..

Your wrong.. Who released Mario? Who released the Legend of Zelda? Who released Resident Evil 4? Who released Super Smash Brothers? All Nintendo.

Now..what exactly is he wrong about? He's got multiple arguments. What are you trying to disprove?

Wasn't super smash bros. Revolution announced as Super Smash bros. Online? You Sony fanboys, take a chill pill.

GC was not the first online u retard!
X Box, then PS2, THEN FINALLY THE CRAPPY Gamecube, it doesnt even have more than 1 online game!

DS can't do what PSP does u moron! CAn it play movies, music, actual 3d graphics not pixel ****!!!

wow that is completely wrong seriously. the first console online was the dreamcast. gc has more than 1 online game (probably only 2 or somthing) ds can play movies and music ( i do it all the time on mine) and the games are 3d (metroid prime)

wow that is completely wrong seriously. the first console online was the dreamcast. gc has more than 1 online game (probably only 2 or somthing) ds can play movies and music ( i do it all the time on mine) and the games are 3d (metroid prime)
Well first off, The Gamecube only has 2 online games. Phantasy Star Online Epsiode 1&2 and Phantasy Star Online Episode 3. Episode 1&2 is one game. It was fun for awhile but SEGA is horrible at supporting and enforcing their games. It's "Hacked" to hell.
Also PC games are better anyways.

wow that is completely wrong seriously. the first console online was the dreamcast. gc has more than 1 online game (probably only 2 or somthing) ds can play movies and music ( i do it all the time on mine) and the games are 3d (metroid prime)

First off, we were talknig about which one was online first, Xbox, PS2, or GameCube, not the DreamCast.

DS can't play music or movies, if it can explain then...

Metroid Prime for DS is all crappy Pixels!

First off, we were talknig about which one was online first, Xbox, PS2, or GameCube, not the DreamCast.

DS can't play music or movies, if it can explain then...

Metroid Prime for DS is all crappy Pixels!

u were talking about consoles not just those 3

it can ive posted this 10000 times but, www.gbamovieplayer.com (cheaper than the converter kit for the psp)

prime ds doesnt look bad, wel first hunt kinda but they improved it for the full version and it is tue 3d so its not pixels

if anyone wants to see all the fake revolution controller pictures go to
http://www.4colorrebellion.com/revolution-controller-mockups/

those are funnny i like that second last one where the guy has the gamecube on his side

First off, we were talknig about which one was online first, Xbox, PS2, or GameCube, not the DreamCast.

DS can't play music or movies, if it can explain then...

Metroid Prime for DS is all crappy Pixels!
" The PSP is the way of the future..."
Actually, Ray-Tracing is the way of the future. Not your sh*tty PSP.

the Ds is not crap. it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Nintendo brought the gaming back to America and Europe after a cock up in the late 70s. Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
You are very wrong when you say they arent original. the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT![/QUOTE]

GC was not the first online u retard!
X Box, then PS2, THEN FINALLY THE CRAPPY Gamecube, it doesnt even have more than 1 online game!

DS can't do what PSP does u moron! CAn it play movies, music, actual 3d graphics not pixel ****!!![/QUOTE]

The last part you're saying is incorrect. The DS can render games in true 3D, but not to the extent of the PSP, but the PSP's graphics still suck contrary to whatever you may think.

nintendo is the best

too true nintendo really is the best

I wouldn't go as far to say that Nintendo is the best.

but it is better than sony and microsoft there is no one else left so there for nintendo is the best but i better save this for the console wars

nintendo is doing bad at the E3 conference, but they have all these new things coming out.
like the new version of the GBA its called the GBmicro its no bigger than two GBA cartriges put together.
i like the new feature on revolution, that u can download any game that came out on any of the nintendo consle.

OR 1 game boy colar cartriges!

what the hell nintendo is doing great at the E3 confrence have you seen how packed their booths are what are you ignirant gawd

the Ds is not crap. it does everything the psp does and much more. the psp has a bigger screen though
Nintendo brought the gaming back to America and Europe after a cock up in the late 70s. Nintendo made the first platformer,adventure,and had the first rpg on it final fantasy.
You are very wrong when you say they arent original. the wavebird was the first wireless controller. the gc was the first online.
If only Sony was more original and made there own games instead of showcasing others. eventually they will lose.
The Gameboy was a bigger sucess than the psx. i'm not a nintendo fanboy. but when you post GET IT RIGHT!

GC was not the first online u retard!
X Box, then PS2, THEN FINALLY THE CRAPPY Gamecube, it doesnt even have more than 1 online game!

DS can't do what PSP does u moron! CAn it play movies, music, actual 3d graphics not pixel ****!!!

the dreamcast was first online you moron it was ahead of it's time and the GC has two online games and it's online capadbility came out around the same time as the crappy ps2

like puppet has said multiple times the ds can play movies and music. the DS can play actual 3d graphics yes the PSP graphics do suck and don't tell me i don't know what i'm talking about i have played my brother's PSP ok thank you

The DS' graphics are even worse, oh and no Nintendo pretty much sucked at E3. They didn't show ANY revolution games, where the Xbox360 showed just about everything the system had. Also, you can't deny that Killzone2 did look pretty cool.

ok killzone2 looked awsome and at E3 nintendo was awasome with twilight princess, gameboy micro, nintendo revolution and some DS games how can you say they sucked at E3

They also had another system. It was pretty cool. Had a camera that could make a wooden dest look like stone on the han held. It reads the game with the camera to play it.

and nintendo is making a PC it has themes for their gaems a special mouse with a big left click and on the side a right click for your thumb or something and yeah

like puppet has said multiple times the ds can play movies and music. the DS can play actual 3d graphics yes the PSP graphics do suck and don't tell me i don't know what i'm talking about i have played my brother's PSP ok thank you

HOW THE HELL CAN U SAY THAT NINTENDO DS's PIXELIZED CRAP OF GRAPHICS ARE BETTER THAN DREAMCAST LIKE GRAPHICS??!!!!!!!!!!

If the DS can do that, then explain how...

what your siginiture that is just an opinion

Okay let me quickly cover a few things.

Nintendo is the only next generation system to not have 1 TeraFLOP of processing power. (x360 has 1.0TFLOPS and PS3 has 1.8TFLOPS)

If I wanted to play old games I would boot up my modded XBox, because guess what? It has pretty much every single MAME, NES, SNES, Master System, Gameboy, and Gameboy Advanced ROM EVER.

I bought a Nintendo Gamecube and you know where it is right now? Under my bed in a box. The Nintendo Gamecube has had fewer games make platinum than any of the other systems of its generation. This is because of both a lack of first and third party innovation; Windwaker, Smash Brothers Melee, and Mario Kart are the only games that stand out to me from the lineup, though some may like Metroid I feel that more relistic and challenging games are more entertaining, such as Ghost Recon 2 (XBox) and Battle Field 2 (PC).

Nintendo may have Square-Enix backing them, but they don't have exclusive rights to Square-Enix, as you may know Square-Enix announced themselves that they haven't disqualified x360, and are planning to develop on the Playstation 3 as well.

As for design, the Playstation 3 was designed after a famous building in Japan, which gives it large appeal in Japan, and also has an elegant look that many (including myself) like. The x360 is designed to match it's onscreen display, a set of inward curves. Revolution has portability on it's side, as both the x360 and PS3 are close to the same size of the original XBox.

x360 surpasses the PS3 in integer calculations per second but the PS3 is based on floating point calculations, which although not as common in traditional game development are gaining importance with recent high end games. Both dramatically over power the Revolution in both floating point and integer calculations though, as it only has two 1.8 GHz 32 bit processors. The Playstation 3 uses a new cell architecture which makes it hard to compare to conventional x86 or EM64T processors, though its supposed to be 1 processor distributing the load and 7 other processors actually doing most of the work, every one running at 3.2GHz at 32bits per tick. The x360 entirely dominates in integer based calculations, which is great for smaller, less open ended games all the way up to games as open ended as Oblivion. It has THREE Dual-Core Processors running at 3.2GHz at 64 bit (64 bits per tick).

If you have anything else to argue about, post it or drop me a line at:
foulplay2@gmail.com

P.S. Nintendo being the 'leading force in the gaming industry' has pretty much died...in the US. Here the gamecube is taking a seat at third when it comes to sales. In Japan the gamecube and the PS2 are pretty much neck and neck on day to day sales, mind you the PS2 being much older than the GC.

*nerd*

*noob nerd*

*nerd*

*noob nerd*


Newbie Nerd? Honestly is that the best come back you can think of, it is an oxymoron... You're a sad showing of today's youth, illiterate and dumbed down to feed from the corporate machine. I'll tell you what, argue with me once you can form a complete sentence and actually prove a point without going off topic or attempting to insult someone. Flame all you want but there is nothing that is harder to deal with than the facts. I guess that the qualifications for 'noob' have been raised a bit since a person majoring in Computer Science in COLLEGE can be considered a 'noob'.

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I'm out for the night, I'll get your response in the morning. Do you think you could form a sentence by then?

There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't.

you are an arsehole i called you anoob because you are a new member a nd when i go on a forum i don't like to do full sentences so sew me. You think that it is cool to be mean to twelve year olds don't you bye calling me stupid because i don't use proper grammer 24/7

You think that it is cool to be mean to twelve year olds don't you bye calling me stupid because i don't use proper grammer 24/7

I haven't seen you use proper grammar once. Besides, since when were twelve year old kids allowed to have oppinions?

And just so you know, low post count on these boards should be a sign that you're quite the opposite of a newbie. I feel like my IQ goes down every time I read your posts, seriously. Once you can come up with an argument to my first post in this thread, that is legitimate and well thought out, feel free to post it, otherwise go hide back in your hole.

just because one person perfers one game consle over another doesn't mean you should yell at the other person for liking it...just i like the nintendo over sony but its an opinion and u cant change that so foget about what you're saying and get on with your life.

just because one person perfers one game consle over another doesn't mean you should yell at the other person for liking it...just i like the nintendo over sony but its an opinion and u cant change that so foget about what you're saying and get on with your life.

Are you ignorant or just plain stupid? All that I pointed out was that the Revolution is the least next gen console by a large gap. It performs at about one half the power of the x360. Then he calls me a 'noobie nerd' for stating the facts. Nintendo no longer controls the console market in non asian countries, Sony and Microsoft have the vast majority over Nintendo. I didn't say that his choice of console was wrong, I simply said that it was a poor choice, due to the performance of Nintendo's last 2 consoles, when it comes to quantity of good games, and over all features.

you would make an awful father first of all
i come on this forum when it uis the end of the day or the start of the day so i am too tired to use grammer big woop.
and it isn't the 20s anymore my opinion is just as validated as yours and nintendo has always had the best games and in another topic you said you would be a good leader for nintendo you would be **** because you insult nintendo more than complement it and the Xbox360 won't have that good graphics because it has no cabel and stuf my brotehr was telling me that is a really unreliable thing and stuff so yeah and revolution is gonna be awsome arsehole

you would make an awful father first of all

Why is that?

i come on this forum when it uis the end of the day or the start of the day so i am too tired to use grammer big woop.
I came on this forum and posted at 3AM, yet amazingly what I want to say is expressed clearly.

and it isn't the 20s anymore my opinion is just as validated as yours
No, but it will be once you're 18. You're still a minor and you're parents are your legal guardians.

nintendo has always had the best games
That is a matter of oppinion, and we don't agree so it isn't a valid arguement, but sony has had more high grossing games in the console sector in the past two generations of consoles.

in another topic you said you would be a good leader for nintendo you would be **** because you insult nintendo more than complement it
So in order to be a fan you must be blind of a consoles faults and a company's decline? If Nintendo pushed out a 2.0 tflop machine next to Sony's 1.8 and Microsoft's 1.0 I would buy it, but the fact remains that they're putting out a machine that can barely pull half of a teraflop.

the Xbox360 won't have that good graphics because it has no cabel and stuf my brotehr was telling me that is a really unreliable thing and stuff so yeah and revolution is gonna be awsome arsehole
Which cable would this be? I hope you know that the XBox will support HD in 1080i, while the Revolution can only reach a small percentage of that resolution. If I was you, I wouldn't trust anything your brother said because he is quite apparently talking out of his ass. And I'm sure that the Nintendo Revolution will be 'good' but thats just it, I want a system that will be bigger and better than good.

Sorry kid, I win.

^Agree-ment


meow.



This xbox 360's specs' (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox360/factsheet.htm) I suppose is proof enough that the xbox 360 will out perform the Revolution :| Compared to this? (http:http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000100046549/)

What you failed to mention about the Xbox360 is it's GPU architecture. Microsoft claims it has 48 parallel pixel pipelines, yet it can only do 48 billion shader operations per second. How is this possible? The X850, according to ATi can do 43 billion shader operations per second yet has 16 pixel pipelines. It also can do "500 Million polygons per second" with it's 500MHz core, yet according to tom's hardware.com the Geforce 6800 Ultra can render 600 Million? You seem to have knowledge in this area, so can you tell me why this is? I'm putting my money on the R520 over the Xbox360. :happy:

just because the xbox 360 has better capibilities doesn't they will use it...for instance the gamecube game metriod prime has awesome graphics but the gamecube game pokemon channel has bad graphics, why is that? Its because the makers of the game desided to make metroid prime a well graphiced game....so if u acually use all the capiblities of the xbox 360 it would be a good game but the time it takes u make a game with the useage of those capibilties ppl wouldn't want to buy the xbox 360 because the lack of games....so their games wont use all capibilities...my point is know proven..

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was because the GDDR3 memory acts not just as graphics but also system memory, and the graphics card is not only a GPU but also a northbridge. :mf_dough: You kinda got me there I'll research more into it and get back to you.

just because the xbox 360 has better capibilities doesn't they will use it...for instance the gamecube game metriod prime has awesome graphics but the gamecube game pokemon channel has bad graphics, why is that? Its because the makers of the game desided to make metroid prime a well graphiced game....so if u acually use all the capiblities of the xbox 360 it would be a good game but the time it takes u make a game with the useage of those capibilties ppl wouldn't want to buy the xbox 360 because the lack of games....so their games wont use all capibilities...my point is know proven..
Actually thats more just because they want it to seem kiddy (after all thats who plays those games) and with more detail comes more 'darkness' and it makes the violence seem more realistic. You also have to consider the fact that the people who actually produce the games are able to produce games which much higher graphics, just look at movies such as Ice Age, it was produced on a modern computer, but certain graphical levels match certain ages, and I'm sure that the little 13 year olds will love the low resolution colorful pokemon playscapes that come with the revolution.

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Heres a site you may be interested in nvidia guy (sorry I didn't have your proper username):
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzcxLDE=

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was because the GDDR3 memory acts not just as graphics but also system memory, and the graphics card is not only a GPU but also a northbridge. :mf_dough: You kinda got me there I'll research more into it and get back to you.


Actually thats more just because they want it to seem kiddy (after all thats who plays those games) and with more detail comes more 'darkness' and it makes the violence seem more realistic. You also have to consider the fact that the people who actually produce the games are able to produce games which much higher graphics, just look at movies such as Ice Age, it was produced on a modern computer, but certain graphical levels match certain ages, and I'm sure that the little 13 year olds will love the low resolution colorful pokemon playscapes that come with the revolution.

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Heres a site you may be interested in nvidia guy (sorry I didn't have your proper username):
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzcxLDE=
I already know of this. Also you're right. It acts as both the system memory and video memory. (Bad Idea) I think anyways. It's DDR3 at only 700MHz. At first I was unsure if that was the actual speed or the effective speed. But it's the effective one due to the peak bandwidth of 22.4GB per second. When compared to other pc videocards like the Geforce 6800 GT which has a peak bandwidth of 33ish GBs per second or even better ones such as the 7800 GTX, it doesn't sound that great. At least the PS3 will have two seperate things of memory. System and Video. System memory being the XDR at 3.2GHz and the Video Memory at 700MHz(The same as the Xbox360). So far the only thing the Xbox360 really has going for it ( In my opinion) is the processors. Other than that it is not very impressive. Oh and to your part about the kiddy games. You are correct. Why does Doom3 look like it does? To try and create as realistic as possible environment, to help make it scarier.

let me clarifey something my brother likes sony he was saying how the PS3 is gonna have all these good graphics and be better than nintendo based on the PS1 and PS2 he hasn't seen pictures of it or anything he has seen the XBOX 360 on the MTV Special but yeah anywho he was saying coz you know how on the MTV Special it said that there are no cabels hooking into the tv yeah well my brother said that was unreliable coz of some stuff then my dog did a fart so i followed the dog.

Why is that?
because he would say to his kid/s your opionion doesn't matter till your 18 untill then don't bother speaking your word isn't worth anything

let me clarifey something my brother likes sony he was saying how the PS3 is gonna have all these good graphics and be better than nintendo based on the PS1 and PS2 he hasn't seen pictures of it or anything he has seen the XBOX 360 on the MTV Special but yeah anywho he was saying coz you know how on the MTV Special it said that there are no cabels hooking into the tv yeah well my brother said that was unreliable coz of some stuff then my dog did a fart so i followed the dog.
Wow, just wow. Like I said though, it supports high definition 1080i. So don't worry, we'll no longer be limited by the system but rather our TV's resolution fairly soon. (I personally have a 52 inch HD TV in my basement so the resolution does matter to me.)


because he would say to his kid/s your opionion doesn't matter till your 18 untill then don't bother speaking your word isn't worth anything

Kids can have oppinions, and are encouraged to, just then they're told their oppinions don't matter yet. Fact of life, children don't have enough life experience to make wise decisions, just as people in jail lose their right to vote, they've made bad decisions so we prevent them from making more.

you could have said that b4 u no

Actually thats more just because they want it to seem kiddy (after all thats who plays those games) and with more detail comes more 'darkness' and it makes the violence seem more realistic. You also have to consider the fact that the people who actually produce the games are able to produce games which much higher graphics, just look at movies such as Ice Age, it was produced on a modern computer, but certain graphical levels match certain ages, and I'm sure that the little 13 year olds will love the low resolution colorful pokemon playscapes that come with the revolution.


the only reason Ice age looked good because it was CGI, you couldn't control the characters in a movie... video games you are the interacting the things inside the game so takes more capibities for the consel to use for it to play good graphiced video games

the only reason Ice age looked good because it was CGI, you couldn't control the characters in a movie... video games you are the interacting the things inside the game so takes more capibities for the consel to use for it to play good graphiced video games

Name a game recently that isn't in CGI? Have you played Fable? The next generation should bring us close to that level of realism, Keep in mind that movie was made years ago, and technology has advanced magnificantly since then. The ability to render those in real time shouldn't be a difficult feat for (2 of the 3, *guess which one lacks in power*) next generation systems. They've said themselves the Spiderman in the upcomming Spiderman game is taken directly from the movie, no dumbing down needed.

By the way, care to explain your signature? Seems quite ignorant. Rich Americans....what rich Americans? How do you know they don't care? And who are these kids? Why are we the Americans somehow to be held responsible?

Name a game recently that isn't in CGI? Have you played Fable? The next generation should bring us close to that level of realism, Keep in mind that movie was made years ago, and technology has advanced magnificantly since then. The ability to render those in real time shouldn't be a difficult feat for (2 of the 3, *guess which one lacks in power*) next generation systems. They've said themselves the Spiderman in the upcomming Spiderman game is taken directly from the movie, no dumbing down needed.

By the way, care to explain your signature? Seems quite ignorant. Rich Americans....what rich Americans? How do you know they don't care? And who are these kids? Why are we the Americans somehow to be held responsible?
First off, By CGI do you mean a game that uses CGI sequences? Like a cinema? Well if that is what you mean, I can name one. Half-Life2. Another one could be Doom3 due to all of the in game cinemas are rendered with the Doom3 engine which saves time and money that would be wasted on a different type of cinema, like the ones used in most console games. Also, I must disagree with you about the Xbox360. I don't believe it's going to get us that close to cinema graphics. Even some of the best looking games out on PC would be VERY hard to mistake for a movie. The PS3 might be close to that, if the trailer for Killzone2 was the real game. Sorry to say this but, 500 million polygons per second is not going to render extremely realistic graphics, but it is a good start.

First off, By CGI do you mean a game that uses CGI sequences? Like a cinema? Well if that is what you mean, I can name one. Half-Life2. Another one could be Doom3 due to all of the in game cinemas are rendered with the Doom3 engine which saves time and money that would be wasted on a different type of cinema, like the ones used in most console games. Also, I must disagree with you about the Xbox360. I don't believe it's going to get us that close to cinema graphics. Even some of the best looking games out on PC would be VERY hard to mistake for a movie. The PS3 might be close to that, if the trailer for Killzone2 was the real game. Sorry to say this but, 500 million polygons per second is not going to render extremely realistic graphics, but it is a good start.

Yes you're right we aren't there quite yet, but I think that sooner we'll be limited by our televisions/monitors than it will reach near reality. Sorry but I'm gonna go lay down, I'll post more tomorrow, spinal taps are killin me.

Yes you're right we aren't there quite yet, but I think that sooner we'll be limited by our televisions/monitors than it will reach near reality. Sorry but I'm gonna go lay down, I'll post more tomorrow, spinal taps are killin me.
Well the reason people are limited by their televisions have to do with their not wanting to purchase a new t.v. Most people who play Xbox don't use a HDTV. I'm betting that most of the 360 users won't use them either, causing most users to suffer from a less than crystal clear image. Moral of the story is, Standard Definiton t.v. sucks.

my sig: Rich americans I.E. celbrities, spend money on million dollar jewlery,clothes and houses. The people who are diing are the people of other countries....therefore i say rich people are selfish. as for me im only 14 so i cant do crap.

my sig: Rich americans I.E. celbrities, spend money on million dollar jewlery,clothes and houses. The people who are diing are the people of other countries....therefore i say rich people are selfish. as for me im only 14 so i cant do crap.

Uh....you know the US gives more money to foreign aid than any other country right? I'm sure that any celeb you check out will have at one point in time given a great quantity to charity. And why should they not be able to spend their earned money on houses and luxuries?

Well the reason people are limited by their televisions have to do with their not wanting to purchase a new t.v. Most people who play Xbox don't use a HDTV. I'm betting that most of the 360 users won't use them either, causing most users to suffer from a less than crystal clear image. Moral of the story is, Standard Definiton t.v. sucks.
Exactly, but even most high definition TVs won't support high enough resolutions for systems to really flex....but monitors do :-)

Uh....you know the US gives more money to foreign aid than any other country right? I'm sure that any celeb you check out will have at one point in time given a great quantity to charity. And why should they not be able to spend their earned money on houses and luxuries?


Exactly, but even most high definition TVs won't support high enough resolutions for systems to really flex....but monitors do :-)
The highest resolution I've seen on a tv was 1366x768. That was a 6000$ Plasma screen too! You could get a good LCD monitor with 1920x1200 which could display TRUE HD for around 800$.

The highest resolution I've seen on a tv was 1366x768. That was a 6000$ Plasma screen too! You could get a good LCD monitor with 1920x1200 which could display TRUE HD for around 800$.
Just what I was getting at...my xbox has a mod so a monitor cord can connect directly to it, which makes it look breath taking compared to on a standard TV, especially a tube.

Name a game recently that isn't in CGI? Have you played Fable? The next generation should bring us close to that level of realism, Keep in mind that movie was made years ago, and technology has advanced magnificantly since then. The ability to render those in real time shouldn't be a difficult feat for (2 of the 3, *guess which one lacks in power*) next generation systems. They've said themselves the Spiderman in the upcomming Spiderman game is taken directly from the movie, no dumbing down needed.

By the way, care to explain your signature? Seems quite ignorant. Rich Americans....what rich Americans? How do you know they don't care? And who are these kids? Why are we the Americans somehow to be held responsible?

All ps3 games shown are all running real time on CGI but its not real game play...I.E. ff10 you play the game then u beat the final boss the goes to a cutt scene thats CGI. CGI is not a graphical image its a system to run movies.. :smokeing1

All ps3 games shown are all running real time on CGI but its not real game play...I.E. ff10 you play the game then u beat the final boss the goes to a cutt scene thats CGI. CGI is not a graphical image its a system to run movies.. :smokeing1
CGI usually refers to pre-rendered scenes. Yeah.

to some of your coments earlier, whoever it was. sales mean nothing, only to the survival of a company. it is funny because games like charlie and the choclate factory and many other horrible games sold more then quality quality games like resident evil 4 and supposedly halo 2. im not 100% about that but the existence of companies are now based off of casual gamers that are younger than ten. and wasnt this the thread for the nintendo revolution...hmmm, interesting.

teraflops are not really important unless the game designers actually plan to put it all to use. proof that a system with lower capabilities can have better looking games: metroid prime, re4, metroid prime2 (there are others but i got to look it up) over all xbox games (fable, and halo 2 and the other crap too). and you cant compare consoles to computers because all games on comp look like crap unless you plan on laying down 4 grand for a medium good one. did you know that ps3 is supposed to be $500 with option of $200 for a warranty. too damn expensive. the revolution plans to appeal to people that cant afford selling their house for gaming. the way to keep prices down is to use use less than new technology. the revolution is bound to have more quality games then the other too. it will most likely take years more for a developer to create a game for the 360 and ps3. and really, how realistic do you need to get before all the graphics look the same. you may notice subtle differences but it is not worth having if you are going to run at only 30 frame rate.

the new systems are going to run at lower frame rates, it just is. the more graohically powerful a game is, thelower the frame rate. that just means the revolution is going to have more fluid visuals than the other two.

proove me wrong so i can argue some more.

to some of your coments earlier, whoever it was. sales mean nothing, only to the survival of a company. it is funny because games like charlie and the choclate factory and many other horrible games sold more then quality quality games like resident evil 4 and supposedly halo 2. im not 100% about that but the existence of companies are now based off of casual gamers that are younger than ten. and wasnt this the thread for the nintendo revolution...hmmm, interesting.

teraflops are not really important unless the game designers actually plan to put it all to use. proof that a system with lower capabilities can have better looking games: metroid prime, re4, metroid prime2 (there are others but i got to look it up) over all xbox games (fable, and halo 2 and the other crap too). and you cant compare consoles to computers because all games on comp look like crap unless you plan on laying down 4 grand for a medium good one. did you know that ps3 is supposed to be $500 with option of $200 for a warranty. too damn expensive. the revolution plans to appeal to people that cant afford selling their house for gaming. the way to keep prices down is to use use less than new technology. the revolution is bound to have more quality games then the other too. it will most likely take years more for a developer to create a game for the 360 and ps3. and really, how realistic do you need to get before all the graphics look the same. you may notice subtle differences but it is not worth having if you are going to run at only 30 frame rate.

the new systems are going to run at lower frame rates, it just is. the more graohically powerful a game is, thelower the frame rate. that just means the revolution is going to have more fluid visuals than the other two.

proove me wrong so i can argue some more.
You really know nothing about computers do you? Because of optimized video cards and cell processors frame rates will be through the roof.

ps3 is supposed to be $500:
No, actually they've announced it will be 'in the 350 area' and plus, who buys a warranty with a system? Treat it with care and you won't have any problems.

it will most likely take years more for a developer to create a game for the 360 and ps3.:
Note that new API's make better graphics simpler to create, I'm willing to bet the original Starfox took longer than Halo 2 to create.

proof that a system with lower capabilities can have better looking games: metroid prime, re4, metroid prime2 (there are others but i got to look it up) over all xbox games (fable, and halo 2 and the other crap too).:
No, just no. You can tell the subtle differences on a standard TV, but get a HD TV then tell me theres no difference. Us that aren't afraid of a few expenses can tell a HUGE difference.

the revolution plans to appeal to people that cant afford selling their house for gaming.:
You get what you pay for.

the way to keep prices down is to use use less than new technology.:
Yes, because I want a system that is outdated to play on.

...and supposedly halo 2:
No, it is one of the highest grossing games ever.

teraflops are not really important unless the game designers actually plan to put it all to use.:
Actually yes they are. More teraflops mean better FPS, and more can be happening at once. (see multitasking)

the revolution is bound to have more quality games then the other too.:
Actually not really, with diminishing third party support they're mostly dependent on first party games and games that have been released on all systems (note they'll get the dumbed down version instead of PS2 this generation)

how realistic do you need to get before all the graphics look the same.:
Until my HD TV that supports 1080p is maxed out.

im not 100% about that:
I know you're not.

proove me wrong:
I seem to be doing that quite well.

you cant compare consoles to computers because all games on comp look like crap unless you plan on laying down 4 grand for a medium good one.:
Wow! I guess you fell for the go-l or alienware trip huh? If you build your own computers and shop smart you can have a kickin' system for well under 1200. 3.2GHz 64bit P4, 2GB DDR2 RAM, SLI technology. Trust me, my 1500 box can do more than most 5000 PCs from a mainstream 'performance' company like alienware. I bet you also run windows to run your games correct? There is your problem. Run Battlefield 1942 in linux and see your FPS go up by 30%.

first off, i know enough about computers to know that they cost alot if you want a good one, alienware is overpriced, and for less than 1200 bucks, you can run all the old games you ever wanted to. you might run half life two, or doom 3 very well. even guild wars is hard to run on some of the less then 1200 systems. and if they do run they look like ****.

most of the good graphic cards that can make computer gaming worth it alone cost 500-600$ and i think that they barely are good enough for some games. my cousin, being the idiot that he is, spent $5000 on all the top of the line stuff, and , in my opinion, it is the only way to make games look better. doom 3 looks like crap unless you are running it on this machine. he built it without going to one of those shatty brand name bull crap places like alienware. the case is cool though with all the neon lights.

i looked up my sources and it turns out they were talking aabout the 360 when it mentioned frame rates. ps3 is supposed to have good frame rates, same with revolution.

almost all announcements recently have said 400 to 500 with option of a 200 dollar warranty. do you remember the ps2 disaster with alot of them breaking for no reason. the first wave of ps2's were crappily made and most of the people that laid down 300 bones had to go out and get another. believe me, i got one and the piece of shat broke within months, i took more care of it then i did myself. they may use the 200 dollar warranty as profit too if they make a good, non breaking system. but i highly doubt it. if you remember when the psp launched, the square button was non functional in a lot of the first wave systems. that is the big problem with sony, they dont fix a problem until it is already widespread.

and it is not outdated, they make new specially made crap for all systems when they come out, they just choose not to use something so futuristic that it would cost them more money then they would make.

you do get what you pay for but sometimes what you pay for is a piece of crap (cough* PS effing 2!!!)

another casual gamers game, gta, of course, is going to be released again for the new systems. when you have played one, you have played all. new graohics or not, it is still the same crap.

halo 2 did sell alot but casual gamers rather go out and buy a piece of crap game they can pick up anywhere.

i said if the teraflops are going to be put to use, meaning more capablity, but not so much better quality. they have a bunch of lazy bums that will rush it and it will look like crap. believe me, unless designers really care about there customers, they will release games that arent anywhere close to using the full potential of the machine. i am not saying that the machine isnt powerful, im just saying, do you really think that that many games will be pushing the system. im sure there will be a couple of games that do but how many. and by looking back at the ps2, not many people are going to try.

i have come to find myself looking back at this generation of gaming. it is not as good as the last. when n64 and ps1 were big contenders and then dreamcast comes out of no where. i think the games made in that period of time were the best games ever made in the world. definitely not the prettiest, but the funnest to play. also when nes and snes were out, they had most innovative games around. now, it has become entertainment for any random person. no true dedication is required to beating a game, all of the games that look the best are the better sellers. stupid childish games (yes, it is considered childish because it really isnt that entertaining unless you are imMATURE) like grand theft auto, and conkers bad fur day have ruined it for the hardcore gamers. if you really knew anything about true gaming. you would know that there are little to no hardcore gamers playing ps2, just those damn casuals. the real hardcore gamers know what i am talking about and you damn casuals that are only interested in specs and prettiness can go to hell.

i just have this to say. ps3 is going to make the most money out of the three of course. but that doesnt mean that the games will actually be funner to play, they will definitely be prettier, but that is all casual gamers want nowadays, short, temperary, beautiful release from the real world. the revolution is most likely not going to have the best looking, but i will sacrifice visual appearance over quality games anyday. long live the hardcore...

note!!! remember i said that this a revolution thread, take your spec drooling arses to the sony section.

^^long, but full of the right info

first off, i know enough about computers to know that they cost alot if you want a good one, alienware is overpriced, and for less than 1200 bucks, you can run all the old games you ever wanted to. you might run half life two, or doom 3 very well. even guild wars is hard to run on some of the less then 1200 systems. and if they do run they look like ****.

most of the good graphic cards that can make computer gaming worth it alone cost 500-600$ and i think that they barely are good enough for some games. my cousin, being the idiot that he is, spent $5000 on all the top of the line stuff, and , in my opinion, it is the only way to make games look better. doom 3 looks like crap unless you are running it on this machine. he built it without going to one of those shatty brand name bull crap places like alienware. the case is cool though with all the neon lights.


You my friend, are an idiot. My $1200 PC can run Battlefield 2 (brand new game) on high with over 100 FPS. WRONG


i looked up my sources and it turns out they were talking aabout the 360 when it mentioned frame rates. ps3 is supposed to have good frame rates, same with revolution.
Actually x360 is benchmarking higher than the PS3 due to high integer processing power. WRONG.

almost all announcements recently have said 400 to 500 with option of a 200 dollar warranty. do you remember the ps2 disaster with alot of them breaking for no reason. the first wave of ps2's were crappily made and most of the people that laid down 300 bones had to go out and get another. believe me, i got one and the piece of shat broke within months, i took more care of it then i did myself. they may use the 200 dollar warranty as profit too if they make a good, non breaking system. but i highly doubt it. if you remember when the psp launched, the square button was non functional in a lot of the first wave systems. that is the big problem with sony, they dont fix a problem until it is already widespread.
PS2 disaster? All you hear about were the bad events. You don't notice that 90% of people had no problems at all (including me). And if you do have problems you can do factory warranty or just fix it yourself (come on installing a new cd tray isn't hard).

and it is not outdated, they make new specially made crap for all systems when they come out, they just choose not to use something so futuristic that it would cost them more money then they would make.
Exactly, I would rather pay 2x as much and have a system that provides maximum performance. $300-$400 isn't alot to spend for a 2 Teraflop system.

you do get what you pay for but sometimes what you pay for is a piece of crap (cough* PS effing 2!!!)
Yes, biased and wrong. I still have my PS2, and I play it more than I do my XBox or my GC. I like a game with decent third party support. *cough not GC cough*

another casual gamers game, gta, of course, is going to be released again for the new systems. when you have played one, you have played all. new graohics or not, it is still the same crap.
And you said this why?

halo 2 did sell alot but casual gamers rather go out and buy a piece of crap game they can pick up anywhere.
Are you joking? No wait, you're just a joke.

i said if the teraflops are going to be put to use, meaning more capablity, but not so much better quality. they have a bunch of lazy bums that will rush it and it will look like crap. believe me, unless designers really care about there customers, they will release games that arent anywhere close to using the full potential of the machine. i am not saying that the machine isnt powerful, im just saying, do you really think that that many games will be pushing the system. im sure there will be a couple of games that do but how many. and by looking back at the ps2, not many people are going to try.
New systems have an advantage, the models can be taken directly from films and for the new Gran Turismo they are getting models directly from the car producers and putting them into their games, along with much more realistic physics. System power isn't just about video capabilities, but also game complexity.

i have come to find myself looking back at this generation of gaming. it is not as good as the last. when n64 and ps1 were big contenders and then dreamcast comes out of no where. i think the games made in that period of time were the best games ever made in the world. definitely not the prettiest, but the funnest to play. also when nes and snes were out, they had most innovative games around. now, it has become entertainment for any random person. no true dedication is required to beating a game, all of the games that look the best are the better sellers. stupid childish games (yes, it is considered childish because it really isnt that entertaining unless you are imMATURE) like grand theft auto, and conkers bad fur day have ruined it for the hardcore gamers. if you really knew anything about true gaming. you would know that there are little to no hardcore gamers playing ps2, just those damn casuals. the real hardcore gamers know what i am talking about and you damn casuals that are only interested in specs and prettiness can go to hell.
Were you old enough to appreciate NES games? Those were revolutionary.

i just have this to say. ps3 is going to make the most money out of the three of course. but that doesnt mean that the games will actually be funner to play, they will definitely be prettier, but that is all casual gamers want nowadays, short, temperary, beautiful release from the real world. the revolution is most likely not going to have the best looking, but i will sacrifice visual appearance over quality games anyday. long live the hardcore...
PS3 has HUGE third party support. Nintendo's third party support is dying quickly.

note!!! remember i said that this a revolution thread, take your spec drooling arses to the sony section.
So anything that goes against your fanboyish ignorant ways goes into the sony section?

^^long, but full of the right info
Wrong. Long, but says nothing. Ignorant blatant fanboyism.

So anything that goes against your fanboyish ignorant ways goes into the sony section?

yes foulplay i suggested to create this thing that's right having the sub sections was all my idea and this was to stop gaming flaming so don't insult nintendo in the nintendo thread unless you want the nintendo fanboys raiding the sony section and start flaming there

yes foulplay i suggested to create this thing that's right having the sub sections was all my idea and this was to stop gaming flaming so don't insult nintendo in the nintendo thread unless you want the nintendo fanboys raiding the sony section and start flaming there
I will out smart them and prove them wrong and foolish no matter where they go. My reason for posting in this thread was the blatant bias and ludicris claims that were made. I'm sorry but even if I am defending a console I will atleast use facts and not oppinions or random guesses. guess_who_i_am, I atleast respect you somewhat for the fact that you were able to admit when you are wrong, but when people argue about things that they have no idea about, it makes me angry. I suppose when you're young you think you're always right though correct? They'll learn once I knock them down a few notches. Also, all of my 'insults' were simply facts. There is no denying game innovation has been on the decline, and by the looks of gamecube and its massive lack of decent games that are worth while, Nintendo simply happens to be declining faster than other companies currently. There is no disputing that.

jesus christ you ****ing suck. you think that because the ps3 has higher specs, that all the generic games that come out for it will be automatically better. did you not know that it is usually a story and and good gameplay that drives a game to greatness. but not anymore, it is about how cool it looks. no one likes games with depth anymore. it is all no longer original. the only originality has become the amount of polygons you can force into a single game. and if you plan on playing a game that has nothing going for it besides graphics, you MY FRIEND, have a sorry gaming life.

also if you tell me exactly what you have in your machine, then you can just say that it cost 1200. anyone can say that. i can say i have a multi million dollar house, and all i would have to do is to stick with that story until you believe it.

of course you are wrong about frame rates, about 90% of the xbox 360s games are going to have frame rates around 30. i will get the article to prove it. just wait until my next post.

i also believe that 90% is a false number you made up, like i did above , what is usually meant by that number is majority. but even with this number, the amount of damaged systems are catastrophic if they sell millions of consoles.
basically, for every million units,, 100,000 units are effed up. that is a big deal. and for some stupid reason, the warranty ran out shortly before most had their problems, funny that. and i shouldnt have to replace something that is part of a 300 dollar piece of shat.

and i think there were few good third party games for any system, the only ones i have liked were the capcom ones. they are the only ones that deserve any attention. and if you think third parties is what makes a system strive, you are right, but third parties are usually just as much spec *****es as you seem to be.

i was saying that casual gamers are the only reason for sony's continued existence.

like i said before, graphics only propel games because of the casual gamers. they only want pretty, not a game that takes to much intelligence to beat.

good graphics are not necessarily better quality. if you had a brain then maybe you could say otherwise. but it is quite obvious that games only depend on the graphics. if the graphics are horrible but the gameplay is great, it will be overlooked by the majority of gamers. that is same reason sega makes only games now. because everyone wanted better graphics, not better gameplay.

someone born today can play nes games if they wanted to. and yes i played snes games first but i was able to enjoy nes when my parents got it from my uncle. which was shortly after.

i said only quality third party is capcom, and i dont know if they said anything but im sure they will help out nintendo for a long while.

and of course you call me a fanboy, im not really a fanboy. i just hate sony and their communistic style of controlling the gaming industry. you might not think so but that is you opinion. since you call me a fanboy, ill call you a spec nerd, or a casual gamer that thinks he is hardcore. just know that me telling you to take your biased ass back to the evil sony conglomerate.

if you want to continue fighting with me, i suggest getting a life and play some real games. the only good games are on nintendo systems and once you find that out, you will be enlightened. now leave me be so that i may find more info about the 360 frame rate.



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get re4, metroid prime echoes, metroid prime one, mario sunshine, wind waker, wave race, super monkey ball (all of them), eternal darkness, both pikmin games, paper mario, ikaruga, mario tennis, f zero, harvest moon a wonderful life, stars wars rogue leader: rogue squadron, resident evil (remake), tales of symphonia, baten kaitos, star fox adventures, metal gear solid twin snakes, the legend of zelda: four swords, animal crossing, final fantasy:crystal chronicles, and bomberman generation.

all of these games are exclusives for the gamecube, for now, the re4 is going to ps2 but it will be watered down of course. but i can here you now " but the graphics suck!!!" no they dont, you are just a dumbass, they dont suck, at least medium quality to great brilliant quality. and the gameplay of each of these games kicks the ass of every other game in existence. you may say otherwise, but if you do, then you must a casual that only plays first person shooters and gta games.

jesus christ you ****ing suck. you think that because the ps3 has higher specs, that a