will be the downfall of man...
i hate that the human race seems to care so much about one person than more impotant issues.


like tonight, i found out that the australian swimming team were considering a boycott of the chinese olympics because of their hostile occupation of tibet. but turned it down...
i mean FUCK!!!!! CMON GUYS.. YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SAVE A FUCKING COUNTRY BY JUST STAYING AT HOME AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE.. BUT NO THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND THE HOME COUNTRY OF AN ENTIRE FUCKNG RELIGION HAVE TO BE COMPROMISED SO YOU CAN GO IN A COMPETITION TO WIN A SHINY LUMP OF FUCKING METAL..... and we think that celebrities have compassion....

and whats worse is that children are being raised to think this way...
"dont worry about starving children in third world countries.. worry that that girl in that film is getting married..."

i know how much this sounds like im advocating charity.. im not... i simply fucking hate the way that people fixate on people vecause other people fixate on them....

and the techologic advancements in the media are to blame as well...

People have always been careless, and have always been obsessed with entertainment and held it in higher regard to the real problems of the world. It's nothing new gussa.

Celebrities are teh suck. But they don't realize it until after it's too late.

Celebrities are just people. People just judge them way out of proportion. Positively and negatively.

It's unfair to group all famous people into one single category of spoiled rich snobs who have nothing better to do than kill animals for coats and strut them down the red carpet. Not all famous people are rich. Not all famous people are spoiled. Not all famous people are oblivious of the real problems of the world.

Celebrity is what makes the world go round (obviously I mean that figuratively). People thrive on spending their money on personal entertainment. Everyone's life revolves around something bigger than their own. Whether they know it or not. It's always been that way. People love to admire what they don't understand. Fame is just on top of the list.

gussa... who in the world do you know actually teaches that to their children? I'm sure they're out there, but you make it sound like just everyone does. If it bothers you so much, then don't teach it to your children when you start a family. Though telling them to be anti-fame, anti-success, anti-prosperity, is just as hypocritical. Who can actually make any sort of impact on the world without at least one of those qualities?

"Leave Britney alone!"

Celebrities are just people. People just judge them way out of proportion. Positively and negatively.

It's unfair to group all famous people into one single category of spoiled rich snobs who have nothing better to do than kill animals for coats and strut them down the red carpet. Not all famous people are rich. Not all famous people are spoiled. Not all famous people are oblivious of the real problems of the world.

Celebrity is what makes the world go round (obviously I mean that figuratively). People thrive on spending their money on personal entertainment. Everyone's life revolves around something bigger than their own. Whether they know it or not. It's always been that way. People love to admire what they don't understand. Fame is just on top of the list.
So I guess Paris Hilton's prison stint was just like something anybody else would do? Caught on their 500th DWI on top of drug charges and getting a couple months?

Also, if celebrities didn't live in such extremities, people might stop judging them extremely.

Face it: celebrities aren't just people, and you can't say everyone's life revolves around whether famous people are wearing underwear or not. Celebrities are people with obscenely huge egos who think they can get away with fucking anything. Not all, but most. And the people whose lives do revolve around celebrities are only fueling that ego.

And as for personal entertainment, yeah I spend a lot of my money on movies and music, but that isn't because I like celebrities; it's because it's a good form of entertainment. If it were up to me, 99% of what I pay for a movie would go to the writers, directors, and film editors. Paying $7 for a movie ticket is basically bullshit because I'm just paying someone who was or will be rich enough to retire at the age of 25, but that isn't the point.

You can't make the argument that we're all obsessed with celebrities, let alone rightfully so. Nor can you really stick up for the way celebrities act. Their lives are consumed by apathy for everything except their public image, 99 out of 100 cases.

Did you even read my post, or did you stop after the first sentence. I was not defending Paris Hilton, people like Paris Hilton, or even any specific celebrity. I really hate it when what I say is completely taken out of context.

I also don't recall saying that all people are obsessed with celebrities. The way you meant it, but you can't tell me there isn't anyone you look up to or feel is somehow higher than yourself. That, in essence, is what I meant my celebrity.

That, and people love gossip. You see it every day. In middle school you get famous on campus for doing the video announcements, in high school you get famous for being a cheerleader, on a successful sports team, or being voted prom queen.

In the real world, you can be famous for pretty much anything. Are every single one of those people, or even most of them, just complete garbage and wastes of space? Or are you just falling for everything the paparazzi says about everyone and assuming that fame = worthless.

I also didn't say that everyone's lives revolve around celebrity gossip. But come on Sam: Shakespeare, Galileo, John Lennon, Mozart, Beethoven, Mohamed, and hundreds of thousands of other familiar names (in no particular historical order) have completely shaped the world we live in today. How did they do this? People knew who they were

If it were up to me, 99% of what I pay for a movie would go to the writers, directors, and film editors. Paying $7 for a movie ticket is basically bullshit...

You make it sound like directors/editors/writers don't get squat. That's simply not true. Just because the actors (and only the big names) get paid a little more than they do doesn't mean they get nothing.

Going paragraph by paragraph:

Yes, I read it quite closely. The only part I deleted from your original post was that which was directed at gussa, because it wasn't directed at me and I didn't have anything to say to it. And phrases such as 'people just judge them [wrong]', 'unfair', and 'make the world go round' sound like you're defending them. The point I was making is that celebrities are far too indulgent and live far too extravagantly to be judged like a normal person. Paris Hilton was a prime example of this.

"Everyone's life revolves around something bigger than their own" wasn't referring to celebrities? I guess I just assumed that was the case because the entire rest of the post was talking about celebrities. Of course I feel there are people higher than me, and I do look up to people. But I don't make rich, indulgent, overly-sexually-active people my role models. I make my friends, my teachers, my favorite writers and people with talents I admire my role models. I'd say people like that are often quite far from celebrity status.

I don't really understand how the first sentence connects with the rest of the paragraph at all, but uh...okay. Gossip is what people say about you. You would be popular through gossip if you were a total god in bed, or if you were really nice or if you did something totally awesome at a party or at school. You get popular through gossip by your actions that are not directly observable by everyone who sees you. You get popular by direct means by doing the things you described.

Yes, but degree of fame is also relevant. People with ass-loads of money and people falling at their feet and snapping photos are the ones that suck. People who are somewhat popular, like say Damien Kulash from Ok Go (I use him as an example because I've met him and spoken to him relatively recently), still maintain their humanity because they haven't quite become so busy keeping up their self-image as to block out human contact.

Yes, you did say that. "Celebrity makes the world go round". You meant it figuratively, but you still said it. And there's a difference between being intelligent, and speaking out and making a difference through speech or beauty or writing or technology and being an unintelligent pretty face on the silver screen. That's like comparing Steve Jobs or Bill Gates to Kirsten Dunst. Kirsten Dunst will be remembered as the damsel in distress that Peter Parker swooped in to save between every breath. Bill Gates will be remembered as one of the men who pioneered technology and made a difference for years to come.

I know it's not true. But actors are some of the richest people alive and they get all the credit and blah blah blah. If I conducted a survey asking who made the movie Lucky Number Slevin (I use this as an example because of the BRILLIANT writing, scripting, camerawork, everything) as good as it was, I assure you most people would say Bruce Willis or Morgan Freeman or Josh Hartnett, not Paul McGuian. This ideal makes it an issue of fame rather than fortune, but the idea is still the same: compared to what the people behind the camera do, the actors do shit.

gussa... who in the world do you know actually teaches that to their children? I'm sure they're out there, but you make it sound like just everyone does. If it bothers you so much, then don't teach it to your children when you start a family. Though telling them to be anti-fame, anti-success, anti-prosperity, is just as hypocritical. Who can actually make any sort of impact on the world without at least one of those qualities?

im not talking about parents raising their children like that.
im talking about soceity.
a child these days is influenced more by media than by their parents.

will be the downfall of man...
i hate that the human race seems to care so much about one person than more impotant issues.


like tonight, i found out that the australian swimming team were considering a boycott of the chinese olympics because of their hostile occupation of tibet. but turned it down...
i mean FUCK!!!!! CMON GUYS.. YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SAVE A FUCKING COUNTRY BY JUST STAYING AT HOME AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE.. BUT NO THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND THE HOME COUNTRY OF AN ENTIRE FUCKNG RELIGION HAVE TO BE COMPROMISED SO YOU CAN GO IN A COMPETITION TO WIN A SHINY LUMP OF FUCKING METAL..... and we think that celebrities have compassion....

and whats worse is that children are being raised to think this way...
"dont worry about starving children in third world countries.. worry that that girl in that film is getting married..."

i know how much this sounds like im advocating charity.. im not... i simply fucking hate the way that people fixate on people vecause other people fixate on them....

and the techologic advancements in the media are to blame as well...
I think this issue has been discussed many many times.

And about the swimming team. You're an absolute fuckwit, they have to make a living off fucking swimming you fuckhead, if they don't go to the Olympics they don't fucking get sponsored and thus they go break and end up homeless 'cause they went and cried over one country that China supposedly owns.

If you're gonna cry for Tibet, why don't you fucking cry over Hong Kong and Taiwan as well? China still apparently "owns" them, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO you support the freeing of TIBET ONLY because they're (zomg) POORER than Taiwan and Hong Kong.

And what the fuck? How are children being raised? I think about 99.95% of us know about third world countries so we clearly weren't raised to "worry about that girl getting married in the film".

Lastly; technological advancements?! Are you fucking serious? *sigh* Why don't you stop using everything you own then you fuck.

first off, as i said in my opening post
i know how much this sounds like im advocating charity.. im not... i simply fucking hate the way that people fixate on people vecause other people fixate on them....

second
i mean that yes we are told that there are third world countries in the world.. but you ever notice that that news seems to take place after the news shows announce that so and so died of an overdose and their sisters getting married to their exs best friend?
(i have a feeling that its all gonna turn out like the european monarchy did {if you dont know what i mean then please dont try and assume to know what youre talking about})

third:
by technological advancements, i meant that these days, if you were in the middle of the desert with no food or water, you could still use your new phone to grap the news headlines.
the media's reach (thanks to internet, radio, t.v. etc) is far and wide and news travels and developes quicker than the event the news is reporting these days....
no im not saying we should go back to living in holes. im saying that i dont understand why poeple idolize the humans as if they were gods.

I think there's very few people in America who PRIDE themselves in being celebrity-obsessed... I think it's just human nature and it happens without us noticing.

I don't read tabloids or poparazzi sites, but I do have a favorite band/musician whose music I identify with and enjoy. I don't hold him on a pedestal but I do find him interesting and entertaining. And it just so happens that because he's a musician, lots of other people find him interesting and entertaining too. I also find my uncle Terry interesting and entertaining, but he's not a celebrity cuz not as many people know him.

So really the only thing that makes you a celebrity is how many people know you... they are just people, not some inferior race of human beings. I think we all have just as many flaws as Paris Hilton or Britney Spears, and how do we know we wouldn't do the same things they do if put in their situations? Everyone wants to be famous, but fame does crappy things to people, it doesn't matter who you are.

And I think people focus on the problems in celebrities' lives for the very reason that they don't want to focus on REAL problems like poverty, or they don't want to focus on the problems they have in their own life. They want somebody to point the finger at.

*applause*

... the point of this thread was?

I thnk mah celebratees r wai coolr than urs.