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pinhead3
11-25-2007, 08:30 AM
Ok!!! I am 11 years old and I have a girlfriend and im not sure if she really likes me?? What should I do to find out????

viper.gtsr
11-25-2007, 08:43 AM
Ask her.

God
11-25-2007, 09:09 AM
I don't think you have a girlfriend. Stop lying.
P.S. It's impossible to know about life when your balls hadn't even dropped.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 09:30 AM
Ignore him. He's rude.

I agree with Viper. You can never get anywhere if you don't communicate with others. Talk to her and say how much you like her (Do you?) and then ask if she feels the same way.

pinhead3
11-25-2007, 10:09 AM
Ignore him. He's rude.
I agree with Viper. You can never get anywhere if you don't communicate with others. Talk to her and say how much you like her (Do you?) and then ask if she feels the same way.
Yes I do like her VERY much!!! If I didnt why would I be asking that Q??

Nicky
11-25-2007, 10:12 AM
Well okay then. Ask her tomorrow at school or... something.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 10:39 AM
Yes I do like her VERY much!!! If I didnt why would I be asking that Q??
I don't know, because you're silly?

Krusty_The_Klown
11-25-2007, 12:40 PM
I'm only a year older than you and I don't have an established relationship or girlfriend. It's pointless. The reason being because grade school relationships don't last. You'll probably never see her again in high school/college.

What are your cute little dates going to be? Your mom will have to drive you to the movies or whatever since you don't have a car and you probably can't even stay out later than 9:00. The reason why you don't get life is because you have a girlfriend. They're a waste of time and money that could be spent on saving up for a good car for high school where it really matters.

My advice: dance in front of her nude and if she smiles then she likes you, if she runs away screaming, tough luck sonny.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 12:44 PM
I dunno, I think that relationships at this age can be useful. I have never had one either, but I do plan to eventually. I mean, if you're looking for a serious one, it's harder to find, but light "fluff" ones can be good to help find out what you want, and show you how people really are, so you don't go into the world completely unprepared.

Nicky
11-25-2007, 01:38 PM
Very true. I've only been in a single relationship so far... and it lasted two and a half weeks. Some of THE worst two and a half weeks of my existence.

insan3
11-25-2007, 05:19 PM
Ok!!! I am 11 years old and I have a girlfriend and im not sure if she really likes me?? What should I do to find out????
Your eleven? What does that equal, like 5th grade?
Keep it clean...

Nicky
11-25-2007, 05:48 PM
Late 5th and early 6th for most people...

TehCat
11-25-2007, 06:45 PM
A couple things to say...


1. Why would you have a girlfriend in 5th/6th grade? It just dosen't seem right.

2. Like Krusty said, it would be wicked embarresing to have your mom drive you around.

3.These "Relationships" won't last.

4.(Imporatant) Don't let me bring you down, you could be realy atached or not, I don't realy know because im not in your grade/school...

Nicky
11-25-2007, 06:51 PM
The age for dating in the U.S. has lowered tremendously in these past years... Kids are becoming more aware of their own sexuality and feelings for the opposite/same sex at a younger age.

Whether or not that is right? Well... I really don't know.

Seems like it would be right in my opinion. You would probably be a better lover (in a ROMANTIC sense people... sheez...) when you grew up. You would be more likely to have a true, serious and committed relationship after knowing what it's like to be in one, or many, for so long... and what you need and don't in in said relationships.

At least... it seems like it.

Krusty_The_Klown
11-25-2007, 06:53 PM
The age for dating in the U.S. has lowered tremendously... Kids are becoming more aware of their own sexuality and feelings for the opposite/same sex at a younger age.
Whether or not that is right? Well... I really don't know.
Seems like it would be right in my opinion. You would probably be a better lover (in a ROMANTIC sense people... sheez...) when you grew up. You would be more likely to have a true, serious and committed relationship after knowing what it's like to be in one for so long.. and what you need and don't in in said relationships.
At least... it seems like it.

My little sister who's in her second year of preschool has a boyfriend. O_O

Nicky
11-25-2007, 06:55 PM
I remember wanting a boyfriend in the 5th grade... and having crushes on boys.

PRESCHOOL however... is a different story. I mean... I guess what I just said still kind of applies to that too? I guess...?

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 06:57 PM
The age for dating in the U.S. has lowered tremendously in these past years... Kids are becoming more aware of their own sexuality and feelings for the opposite/same sex at a younger age.
Whether or not that is right? Well... I really don't know.
Seems like it would be right in my opinion. You would probably be a better lover (in a ROMANTIC sense people... sheez...) when you grew up. You would be more likely to have a true, serious and committed relationship after knowing what it's like to be in one, or many, for so long... and what you need and don't in in said relationships.
At least... it seems like it.

There's a line though.

Childhood is meant to be enjoyed, and being blissfully unattached from that part of life is part of that. Even at OUR age, it's like "What's the point?" So it's mind blowing that KINDERGARTENERS are into that stuff. And as far as sexuality goes...at that age they should still be asking "what's that?!"

Damn our society.

Nicky
11-25-2007, 06:59 PM
So you can't enjoy childhood if you experience being in love...? It's only been in recent centuries that marrying children under 16 was frowned upon. Not that I'm saying it shouldn't be... but it's just an observation. Why is it so bad really that kids learn what sex is, not that they actually HAVE it... but at least know what it is?

Why should we lie to children until they reach a certain age just so we can enjoy them walk around confused? They're still innocent, they're just more aware.

My mom raised me to always expect an answer from her if I asked her a question. Any sort of question I had for her regarding sex, no matter what age I was, she answered it.. and I have no intention of having sex before I am married, but at least I know what it is.

Do you remember how frustrating it was to ask a question to someone regarding sex or life in general, and they not answer you, or tell you a blatant lie in hopes of you being ignorant for at least one more extra day? It feels a lot better to actually learn things from people you trust instead of having to find out from some outside source like the internet or books... and then have to hide the fact that you know these things from those very people until it just CONES UP one day in a conversation so that the parent or parental figure can finally go "Phew... I didn't have to teach them myself! Okay...".

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:02 PM
So you can't enjoy childhood if you experience being in love?
No, no. That's not what I meant. And I'm not saying it's not possible to find that kind of love at such an age, it's just extremely rare.

And as far as that goes, a lot of it isn't even love. It's kind of like how most 13 year old girls are "bisexual." Everyone else is, it's the cool thing to do, and they gradually truly think they are because of the social pressure and necessity to be in love, so it's a pseudo-love.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 07:05 PM
Eh, I say don't listen to them, honestly.

You're young yes, but that just means you can get away with more ;) have fun, and do what you want.

Sure, a relationship this early might not last, but hell, worst thing that can happen is that you have some fun, and learn a little. I wish I had started dating earlier, it sucks to be in a relationship and not know what your doing when then girl does.

And just ask her, and remember, as long as you don't act embarrassed you won't embarrass yourself. Even if she doesn't like you, just remember there's always another girl (probably an even prettier one).


As for the rest of you, I knew scientifically what sex was when I was like 6. My mom knew I was smart enough to understand that. I started learning how it all actually happened around 12, it was a surprise, but the way I see it, we should tell kids what it is, but let them find out the "juicy" details by themselves (and trust me when I say there's no way to stop them from finding out for themselves).

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:06 PM
Whoa! Hold on Nicky! You edited, I have to catch up.
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Okay, my reply:

I didn't mean "keep them in the dark."

I knew what sex was at the age of 5. I mean, very loosely, I knew the "guys stuff" and "girls stuff" was involved, anways... My mom always told me to ask her about questions I had.

But knowing and experiencing are two different things. Granted, sex and dating are two totally different things. I knew what dating was of course, but it never even entered my mind to do it myself. Now that 5 year olds Are dating, how long before it evolves into the next extreme?

Nicky
11-25-2007, 07:09 PM
I think I know where you're going with this... Like, if a child plays with Barbies and Bratz dolls and is surrounded by sexual imagery and behavior all her life she'll develop breasts and all that other fun stuff at an earlier age, right? I'm not really talking about sex, neccesarily... but love... Like, romantic love/dating stuff. It's strange.. O_o I've never contemplated this stuff until now.
No, no. That's not what I meant. And I'm not saying it's not possible to find that kind of love at such an age, it's just extremely rare.
And as far as that goes, a lot of it isn't even love. It's kind of like how most 13 year old girls are "bisexual." Everyone else is, it's the cool thing to do, and they gradually truly think they are because of the social pressure and necessity to be in love, so it's a pseudo-love.
Sorry, went on a rant... :P

But yeah, that I kid of disagree with on that as well. I mean.. isn't that kind of ageist? A child is just as capable of any type of emotion that an adult is... more even, because unlike adults, a child's love is unconditional, and pure by nature. An adult is just a bigger, less cute, more educated child anyway.

It's us older people who teach them our own views on love, and then they grow on to teach their own children those same views.

I'm not saying that children should be lustful for teh secks all the time though! O_O

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Meh, I try to stick to the "age is just a number" view, but there are still lines. Blurry lines mind you. For example, how it's not okay for a 16 year old to date a 20 year old by law, but when they're 24 and the other is 28, it's perfectly fine. It's that weird zone where a lot of development goes on in a short period of time, where 4 years is a really long time at 16, but at 24 it's not.

This IS related, by the way, in my mind, bear with me ;P

When you're a little kid, you're exploring the world, and learning about it, but not on that level. That's better left to the older kids, where it is typically part of growth...

Are you feeling me at all?

Nicky
11-25-2007, 07:14 PM
I edited again... sorry. :P

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Darn you... ;P Gimme a sec.
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I think I know where you're going with this... Like, if a child plays with Barbies and Bratz dolls and is surrounded by sexual imagery and behavior all her life she'll develop breasts and all that other fun stuff at an earlier age, right? I'm not really talking about sex, neccesarily... but love... Like, romantic love/dating stuff. It's strange.. O_o I've never contemplated this stuff until now.

And I'm saying that at such an age, sex could be confused for love. it's just not something I would want to push on kids and risk that happening. They'll already have a bunch of other new things pushed on them way too early to deal with that. (Remember, we were talking about 7 year old with anorexia? Stuff like that.)

I'm not saying that children should be lustful for teh secks all the time though! O_O
They shouldn't be lusting period! That's what i'm talking about. Knowing, but not KNOWING.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 07:27 PM
This is all being blown out of proportion and off-topic. Most of it has nothing to do with pinhead's post, and it kinda belongs in debating now.

What dating is, in my opinion, is spending time, and learning of two people both with sexual ATTRACTION towards the other, while forming some connection with them. I seriously doubt pinhead was ever thinking about sex, or love.

Which, like I said, he shouldn't be, at his age he should just be trying to enjoy himself, and if that involves a girlfriend, why not?

As far as love goes, it can't be defined since everyone has a different definition of love. But i'll put it into terms i heard from someone awhile back.

Love is like having a glass full of water. For a thirteen-year old their glass is the size of a shot-glass, and it only takes a little water (water, in this case, being aspects they like about someone) to fill their glass, and for them to be in love with someone. As we grow, our glasses do to, so that a 50 year-old's glass might be the size of a gallon jug. Even if someone filled up that thirteen-year olds glass at one point, theres no way for them to tell if that same person will be able to fill up their jug 50 years later.

I'm not sure if that is really how it is, but I think it might be something LIKE that. It's an interesting idea anyway.

Finally, I have to say, teenagers are going to have sex. It's almost more healthy for them to, than to be virgins until marriage. In modern times, most of the population WILL have sex before they turn 18, that is why schools don't really teach abstinence in sex ed anymore, and teach safe sex practices instead.

Nicky
11-25-2007, 07:30 PM
What're you talking about? This has everything to do with pinhead's post.

~~~

@Becca

Kids lust anyway... 3 and up is the average time people learn to masturbate.

Though that doesn't mean they should have SEX. Goodness no! Their bodies aren't ready for that yet (it would physically harm the child... which in turn would psychologically harm them as well)!

I do think though, that we should stop lying to the kids... stop telling them that the magical baby fairy sends a baby down from Heaven and the baby arrives a year after a man and woman are married. Or that they come from the Cabbage Patch. Or that they come delivered by a stork.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
Kids lust anyway... 3 and up is the average time people learn to masturbate.
Though that doesn't mean they should have SEX. Goodness no! Their bodies aren't ready for that yet! Or their minds...
I do think though, that we should stop lying to the kids... stop telling them that the magical baby fairy sends a baby down from Heaven and the baby arrives a year after a man and woman are married. Or that they come from the Cabbage Patch. Or that they come delivered by a stork.
To them masturbation isn't at all connected with sexual fantasies, it just feels good. So they do it.

We're not lying to them by not running up to them the moment they are born and saying "HOLY SHIT! LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE WONDERS OF THE VAGINA..."

Nicky
11-25-2007, 07:36 PM
To them masturbation isn't at all connected with sexual fantasies, it just feels good. So they do it.
We're not lying to them by not running up to them the moment they are born and saying "HOLY SHIT! LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE WONDERS OF THE VAGINA..."
That was funny... (not in an insulting kind of way).

And yeah, I suppose you're right.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 07:37 PM
*ROFL* I almost wanna run into the hospital as a baby is born and yell that just to see the looks on everyone's face now. xD

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:37 PM
So we agree to exist in a semi-solid jelly like state of yesness?

Coldin
11-25-2007, 07:39 PM
I say we tell them what exactly is happening first, and the reason sex is there and what it does (around age 9-10). Then around 13 they should learn exactly what goes where and the details.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 07:44 PM
Well what worked for me was my mom told me the basics, and then told me what I needed to know when I asked.

I think that's what it comes down to: Everyone learns/lives at their own pace, we have to let them decide when to learn it. Not push media bullcrap and society standards on them.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 08:05 PM
That's what media and society does, that's the way it works. You can't stop it, you can only shelter yourself, or your children from it. It's ultimately the parents decision of what their kids learn. Now, what is RIGHT for them to learn can be debated.

I do feel kids are almost too-sheltered. People think that there are sooo many bad influences "now-a-days". Like it was any better years ago, do some research, kids today in this country are more sheltered than at any other time. It really just leads to individuals with weak will and very little motivation.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-25-2007, 08:09 PM
It's ultimately the parents decision of what their kids learn.
That's the worst part, there's so much advertising that parents can't even do that anymore, unless you're kid is deaf mute and blind, you're fucked.

I do feel kids are almost too-sheltered. People think that there are sooo many bad influences "now-a-days". Like it was any better years ago, do some research, kids today in this country are more sheltered than at any other time. It really just leads to individuals with weak will and very little motivation.
I think people are too busy focusing on sheltering their kids from harmless things like homosexuality and whatnot, that the real threats slip right past. The real threats being the kids growing up hating their bodies, and being bigoted...it's just crazy.

Krusty_The_Klown
11-25-2007, 08:28 PM
That's the worst part, there's so much advertising that parents can't even do that anymore, unless you're kid is deaf mute and blind, you're fucked.
I think people are too busy focusing on sheltering their kids from harmless things like homosexuality and whatnot, that the real threats slip right past. The real threats being the kids growing up hating their bodies, and being bigoted...it's just crazy.

Which is mainly where many eating disorders stem from as well as suicide just because they can't look like someone else. Most of the time, the magazine models are photoshopped beyond recognition and almost non-human

Nicky
11-25-2007, 08:31 PM
Most (http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/) of the time...?

Especially... scroll down to that last picture. The one of Lindsay Lohan. I swear, if you've read the Uglies trilogy you'll think of that as even MORE creepy than you would prior to reading it.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Wow, NC that really is an eye-opener :O I didn't realize it was THAT extreme.

Krusty_The_Klown
11-25-2007, 08:35 PM
Most (http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/) of the time...?
Especially... scroll down to that last picture. The one of Lindsay Lohan. I swear, if you've read the Uglies trilogy you'll think of that as even MORE creepy than you would prior to reading it.

AGH! MY EYES! TOO BRIGHT! There was also these photoshop videos on youtube where it shows someone turning this fat ugly lady into a really hot chick.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 08:37 PM
I swear, my last girlfriend is so much prettier than most of those models, thats a big boost of confidence to me! ^_^

Nicky
11-25-2007, 08:38 PM
Ahh i love that video! Haha

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SOljR7tbV-Y

That's not the one you were talking about, but all the ones of that particular fat girl are all flagged, and I don't feel like logging into my fake adult account.

But yeah... it's pretty concerning.

People also do that to edit out the bones in crazy skinny models to make people think that you CAN be that thin and NOT look scary. And that they can actually get thinner.

Coldin
11-25-2007, 08:41 PM
Photoshop just opened up new terrible possibilities of what i'm actually looking at.....*shudders*

Krusty_The_Klown
11-25-2007, 08:43 PM
I'll never look at photoshop the same way again... I'll just add crazy skinny models into my new signatures then!

Nicky
11-25-2007, 08:53 PM
Oh yeah... they also do it to make people look fatter or uglier in tabloids. :P If they have a bad reputation at the time or something.

My computer was going slow so I couldn't say that 'till just now.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UoKoAObs4Cs

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-26-2007, 02:52 PM
Most (http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/) of the time...?
Especially... scroll down to that last picture. The one of Lindsay Lohan. I swear, if you've read the Uglies trilogy you'll think of that as even MORE creepy than you would prior to reading it.
Hahahahaha, I love how the only one who looks the same before and after was Kelly Clarkson. I love her.

Natus Lumen
11-26-2007, 07:30 PM
Lol. I remember when my sister had a boyfriend in fifth grade. My friend and I were sitting around my house doing nothing and my mom brought them home from a date of sorts. They went down to my sister's room, and my dad told me to see what they were doing. I went to where I could hear, and said, "Haha they're only playing Bop-it." My friend says in mock horror, "Bop what?" One of the most memorable sex jokes ever.

MeTal CaNdYcaNe
11-26-2007, 07:32 PM
XD

Ahh, I love word play.

gabrielwhist
11-26-2007, 10:11 PM
Ok, Pinhead. Your name is so fitting, its not even funny. First off, you're a retard. Secondly, you are way to young to have any real feelings for this girl. Do your thing, and break it off. Don't get to emotionally involved, or stay in the relationship for any period of time.

insan3
11-26-2007, 10:57 PM
Ok, Pinhead. Your name is so fitting, its not even funny. First off, you're a retard. Secondly, you are way to young to have any real feelings for this girl. Do your thing, and break it off. Don't get to emotionally involved, or stay in the relationship for any period of time.
Pretty much sums things up nicley

Drunken_Shinobi
11-27-2007, 02:21 AM
Ok!!! I am 11 years old and I have a girlfriend and im not sure if she really likes me?? What should I do to find out????
Okay first of all I think you should just drop your relationship mainly because you're too young to be dating. Also when you get older you'll come to realize that dating is pretty serious and that it isn't all "fun and games" like what you're probably thinking right now. Also you shouldn't not get life because you have the girlfriend all of the sudden because having a girlfriend is only part of life and you need to get used to that.

gussa
11-27-2007, 07:36 AM
Most (http://www.hemmy.net/2007/05/25/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/) of the time...?
Especially... scroll down to that last picture. The one of Lindsay Lohan. I swear, if you've read the Uglies trilogy you'll think of that as even MORE creepy than you would prior to reading it.
the wierd thing is, i know how to do most of that on photoshop...