Debate about religious debates.

am i the only one that voted in the poll?

Debate about religious debates.
I dunno...sounds debatable.

It is debatable, but I think it will get too dramatic or unruly because religion is a very controversial subject.

Oh goodie. I always wanted to do this. Here goes:

Rastafarians: Bob Marley died a Christian. So did Haile Salasie for that matter.

Muslims: Not matter how much you pray, you're still the bastard children of Abraham. Also, your Koran is uber-violent

Christians: (In particular the Catholics):Even if she was a virgin when she had Jesus, she wasn't after. She had several children after. And praying to her is a form of idolatry. Also, they are just as many historical instances of Christian terrorism as they are Muslim Jihadists (Jim Jones, for example).

Jews: For 1500 years from the time of Abraham, till the arrival of Jesus, they were tonnes of prophecies fore telling the coming of the Messiah. Not one after Jesus.... Things that make you go hmmm...

Evolutionists: Darwin did not intentionally suggest that man evolved from monkey. He was simply creating an example to explain his theory of evolution.

Hindus: The world is not balancing on the back of a giant turtle.

Big Bang Theorists: Aren't you essentially saying the same thing as every monotheistic religion out there, just in a scientific context? And isn't your idea of Etheric space (a place of negative space outside the reaches of time) essentially the same as the Christian's Heaven?

Wow. Sen hates everyone.

Religious debates are stupid cause no one ever changes anyone else's opinons and all they end up doing is pissing each other off.

I'm mostly existentialist myself.

Thanks Gabriel. I knew I was forgetting someone important.

Existentialists and Atheists: Your stupid. Your stupid. Your stupid. And don't forget, Your stupid.

Coincidence can only explain so much

How the hell can god exist? It is fucking impossible.

Is it really? For all their talk, scientists cannot say definitively that there is no God. The best they can do is say that man's varying interpretations are flawed. Which is what, to a certain extent, this thread is doing.

On top of all that, you then have to define God (You can't say something doesn't exist if you don't know what it is, or what it's supposed to be). And that in itself is another debate. For me God is perfection, God is Love, God is Peace. Are you saying that Love doesn't exist? Most Christians believe that God is everything and everywhere. So to say that the Christian God doesn't exist is to take the nihilistic approach and deny all existence.

So again I say Atheists and Existentialists are stupid, furthermore, they are arrogant pigheaded twats, too self indulgent to look around them and see the beauty that is life.

But that's just me.

Existence is illogical.
Thats about all there is to it.

Is it really? For all their talk, scientists cannot say definitively that there is no God. The best they can do is say that man's varying interpretations are flawed. Which is what, to a certain extent, this thread is doing.
On top of all that, you then have to define God (You can't say something doesn't exist if you don't know what it is, or what it's supposed to be). And that in itself is another debate. For me God is perfection, God is Love, God is Peace. Are you saying that Love doesn't exist? Most Christians believe that God is everything and everywhere. So to say that the Christian God doesn't exist is to take the nihilistic approach and deny all existence.
So again I say Atheists and Existentialists are stupid, furthermore, they are arrogant pigheaded twats, too self indulgent to look around them and see the beauty that is life.
But that's just me.

Atheists and existentialists believe in lifes natural beauty more than anyone, as we believe it is all their is.
The reason I say that God is an impossibility is because the whole "if God created the universe, than what created God?" conundrum. As Ryu said, existence is illogical, there is no way to know how existence began, or why. I just think that God is a very stupid explanation of the occurence. If I had to be religious I would choose Deism or Paganism.

That's why it's called 'faith'. After a while, reasoning is no longer applicable. Scientists believe that time is in fact, not infinite. On that basis we can therefore assume that there is existence outside the grasp of time. Now, jumping a bit, if, hypothetically, some one lived outside of time, wouldn't that being be at least omniscient, relative to our existence? Hmm?

Interesting theory. I do believe in the possibility of a god, just not a Christian god, or one pertaining to the Anglican church.

To be omnipotent, a god would have to be existent and nonexistent simultaneously. Therefore I neither believe nor disbelieve in any god that is omnipotent.

We're getting off topic here.

Or are we?

How are we getting off topic? We're having a civil debate on religious matters. If you have a particular direction you wish this conversation to flow, submit your two cents worth and stop interrupting with needless bull like that.

We're debating about debates about religious matter. If you want a religious debate go to every other single thread on Gprime.

Honestly they're so pointless, every point has already been brought up and until god descends from heaven and smites us all we have no proof either way.

We're getting off topic here.
Welcome to Gprime!

*fanfare*

I was wondering when Willy Wanker would show up. What's your view?

Are you sure you don't wanna edit ^that^ before it's too late?

Personally, I've been going to church for several months now. I don't necessarily...believe...I kind of do but I wouldn't walk around telling people that just yet. I think the idea of a God seems sort of unrealistic, although the religion is intriguing to me, but at the same time I think atheists and agnostics can be annoying. I would much rather follow a philosophy such as Taoism or Confucianism, rather than a spiritual faith, but I'm trying a lot of new things right now.

I like that one, its called rationalism or something, its what deism came from I think. I also like a lot of stuff from Buddhism. And I like Paganism.

Oh goodie. I always wanted to do this. Here goes:
Rastafarians: Bob Marley died a Christian. So did Haile Salasie for that matter.
Muslims: Not matter how much you pray, you're still the bastard children of Abraham. Also, your Koran is uber-violent
Christians: (In particular the Catholics):Even if she was a virgin when she had Jesus, she wasn't after. She had several children after. And praying to her is a form of idolatry. Also, they are just as many historical instances of Christian terrorism as they are Muslim Jihadists (Jim Jones, for example).
Jews: For 1500 years from the time of Abraham, till the arrival of Jesus, they were tonnes of prophecies fore telling the coming of the Messiah. Not one after Jesus.... Things that make you go hmmm...
Evolutionists: Darwin did not intentionally suggest that man evolved from monkey. He was simply creating an example to explain his theory of evolution.
Hindus: The world is not balancing on the back of a giant turtle.
Big Bang Theorists: Aren't you essentially saying the same thing as every monotheistic religion out there, just in a scientific context? And isn't your idea of Etheric space (a place of negative space outside the reaches of time) essentially the same as the Christian's Heaven?


you forgot Buddhists

I deliberately left them out, but whatever:

Buddhists: If we are all reborn, why is the population constantly increasing? And if everything has a soul, doesn't that apply to Western technology? I'm not even gonna touch the idea of Karma. The notion is flawed

I deliberately left them out, but whatever:
Buddhists: If we are all reborn, why is the population constantly increasing?
because as you stated later on in your post
everything has a soul
sure the human population is increasing, but the number of trees and natural wildlife?

Sen...your ideas of Buddhism are all Hindu.

i thought so to...

Buddhism is basically uniting your soul with the [insert ancient Chinse word here that means 'great soul'], or great soul, aka the soul of the world, which happens when you achieve Nirvana. Nirvana basically happens when you free yourself from the material world. Neo-asceticism.

Read Siddhartha. It explains it a lot.

I basically know about what Buddhism is. I have a book called The World's Religions and about 1/5 of it is about Buddhism.

Karma is a philosophy held in pretty much all Indian religions, including Hindu and Buddhism. Cause and Effect. And reconception is a Buddhist principle. What did I say that was wrong?

Adding to the Buddhists: Your Four Noble Truths are four Obvious truths.

Actually, Hinduism and Buddhism are very similar. However, Buddhism is a lot more self-impacted than Hinduism.

Buddhism, you have to restrain yourself from all material things from the beginning. Hinduism, supposedly the sooner you cease attachment from material things the better, but it doesn't have to be then and there. Eventually, through every rebirth, you will become a little wiser and a little less attached naturally.

In Buddhism, you follow the Eightfold path, which ultimately leads to pain and suffering. Supposedly, not following the Eightfold Path is like eating a delicious meal while the world around you is going to ruin. You start out speaking so as to cause no harm, then acting so as not to cause harm, then living your life so as not to cause harm. Then, after the first stage, you start mastering yourself, which can only be done after making sure you don't harm anything around you. It's like, first you make an effort to improve yourself and your mind, then becoming able to see things for what they are in actuality, then being aware of yourself and your own reality.

Then you move into the third stage, which is the final area before nirvana, when you understand all things around you as they really and truly are instead of how they look or appear. Then you meditate in this stage, and you hit Nirvana, which is a complete change in your pattern of thinking.

Hinduism completely revolves around reincarnation and your actions and such.

I'll just choose to ignore that willy wanker comment

Hinduism and the caste system are kinda odd...

Its kinda sad to see the things people do to the "untouchables" when they don't follow the rules of their rank.

I'll just choose to ignore that willy wanker comment
Hinduism and the caste system are kinda odd...
Its kinda sad to see the things people do to the "untouchables" when they don't follow the rules of their rank.
Yeah...you really can't have the caste system without Hinduism. People are actually content with their place in life because they know that if they are, they'll be happier in the next life. Seems atrocious to Americans, athiests and existentialists, but I mean...so do Naziism and Satanism.

Nothing wrong with good ol' fashioned Satanism. Well, at least nothing worse than Christianity.

Oh please. Christianity is not that bad.

Then neither is Santanism.

Lol. I'm gonna go practice Santanism.

hoorah!

Then neither is Santanism.
Don't even try this argument. The many things common to Satanism are frowned upon in society. Satanism is hardcore, extreme, and unfounded. The only reason Satanism was invented was because medievel European Catholics were friggin' idiots.

Um...I'm on the fence about getting into this, but here it goes: (Not exactly related to the current string of conversation...)

I don't believe in a heaven or hell...I think when you die where you go depends on how your life was lived. If you haven't completed what I call your karmic cycle OR if you haven't gained and learned all the things you were supposed to (who knows what they are) then you will be cycled back into someone/something else...the thing/person is deteremined by how good of a person (my definition of that is doing what you'd like with your life without damaging anyone elses) or how rotten you were. if you were good but didn't complete your learning or whatever, you'll just go into a new person...if you were rotten you'll go into a rock...or maybe a carrot...or a shoe. Yeah. Then once you've completed whatever you were supposed to, you'll turn into some sort of spirit with a job...like a guardian angel or something. If you're evil then you just vanish. POOF. Evil people don't even deserve a place.

I do believe that's the most outlandish bull I've ever heard. Well, that and the Jehovah's Witness that passed by my home today.

shoes arent alive

I do believe that's the most outlandish bull I've ever heard. Well, that and the Jehovah's Witness that passed by my home today.
Well, at least it's something I made up myself, and I'm not going around like a Jehovahs witness pushing it upon others, but simply sit back happily with my own explanation. It's not like I'm going to go build some Scientology-esque cult out of it. I was just sharing my idea.

Don't even try this argument. The many things common to Satanism are frowned upon in society. Satanism is hardcore, extreme, and unfounded. The only reason Satanism was invented was because medievel European Catholics were friggin' idiots.

Satanism isn't largely practiced to the insane extent that you are talking about. It is mostly just an extreme opposite of Christianity.

Well, at least it's something I made up myself, and I'm not going around like a Jehovahs witness pushing it upon others, but simply sit back happily with my own explanation. It's not like I'm going to go build some Scientology-esque cult out of it. I was just sharing my idea.
umm... actually i believe that you stole this idea from the Hindu's... they called it "Reincarnation"...

Satanism isn't largely practiced to the insane extent that you are talking about. It is mostly just an extreme opposite of Christianity.
Yeah, except Christians don't kill random living things, have sex with the deceased, drink blood, eat live cats, or any other things. They sit in a church and pray.

I guess now someone's going to say, "u c4n b a Stnantst n u dont haf 2 kil c4t5 r hav secks w ded ppl n00b al u h4ve 2 doo s l0v Satn!!!11!" Okay. Just like you can be a Christian and not go to church. Or be a soccer player and not go to practice or games.

Satanism only exists because the Catholic church created it. They said anyone who worshiped anything else but God worshiped Satan. Some people hated Catholics, so they started burning churches. They figured they might as well become the enemies that the Catholics invented.

Yeah, except Christians don't kill random living things, have sex with the deceased, drink blood, eat live cats, or any other things. They sit in a church and pray.

And most satanists stand around in the woods in cloaks and cowels chanting in Latin.
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I guess now someone's going to say, "u c4n b a Stnantst n u dont haf 2 kil c4t5 r hav secks w ded ppl n00b al u h4ve 2 doo s l0v Satn!!!11!" Okay. Just like you can be a Christian and not go to church. Or be a soccer player and not go to practice or games.

Thats how it is 98% of the time with Satanists.
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Satanism only exists because the Catholic church created it. They said anyone who worshiped anything else but God worshiped Satan. Some people hated Catholics, so they started burning churches. They figured they might as well become the enemies that the Catholics invented.

And?

By your definition, Catholics are Satanists. Actually, now that I think about it, it's not such an extreme concept. I'm already convinced that Catholicism is a separate religion from Christianity.

By your definition, Catholics are Satanists. Actually, now that I think about it, it's not such an extreme concept. I'm already convinced that Catholicism is a separate religion from Christianity.
He's citing comparisons. He's not saying they're identical. And actually "Satan" only exists in Christian lore.

and Christianity isn't a religion. Its a belief system.

What???? O_o

Dude... really, stick to your Natural Sciences, or whatever your studying.

Here's (http://www.answers.com/Religion?cat=biz-fin&gwp=16) the definition of Religion, and here's (http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Christianity&gwp=16) the definition of Christianity. Now, if your statement was supposed to have some deep, profound, philosophical meaning, please elaborate. Otherwise STFU

Napalm's right this time I think.

Christianity was based on historical events, more or less. Basically the philosophy of Jesus Christ and other prophets, and then their spiritual events. It's not something people just invented out of nowhere, it's something people believe happened to actual, living people. People follow the examples of a few people, because those few people may or may not have expressed the word of a divine being. So really, Christianity is people believing a philosophy than a deity, although Christians do worship both.

Satanists and Catholics/Christians are different because one worships Satan and the other worships God. Their ceremonies are entirely different. The only reason Satan/Satanists exist is because people wanted to defy Catholocism.

That makes no sense. The same can be said of Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Rastafarians, Hindus, satanists, Wiccans, Gaians, or any other Religion. They all have doctrines that dictate a moral way to live.

The difference is the philosophies coming directly from a divine being and the philosophies coming from prophets or other philosophers.

This is annoying.

Prophets are people mandated by their God, and hence, fulfill the same role.

And what holy text was written by a 'divine being'? Jesus didn't write any, Yahweh didn't write any, Allah didn't get up off his thrown to write a "Memoirs from a better place." The only exception I can think of is Buddha, but even that doesn't count, because he was first and earthly mortal, then a divine being. Not since the days of Mysticism has any religious philosophy come "directly from a divine being."

Just for my own pleasure:

Satanism is NOT just the worship of a spiritual being called Satan. There are four primary sects of Satanism: belief in the ideological Christian devil, belief in an actual spiritual being, Setianism (following of an Egyptian god called Set, believed to be the basis of Satan's character), and atheistic Satanism, which is hedonistic; ultimately just a pursuit of pleasure and self-interest without any theological affiliation. It fits with Satanism because they are the qualities Satan upheld in the Bible.

I read a book on the history of Satanism in the library the other day; my interest was piqued months ago by Internets (I paraphrased the wiki because it's factual and easy to put into my own words), and it came up in this thread. This is somewhat relevant and I hope Napalm doesn't delete it. Plus it's a misunderstood area of religion.

Don't use the "R" word. He'll try to crucify you.

Nah. I'm giving up. I'll just wait around to see what Napalm has to say about this.

I don't think Kimmy likes me much anymore. ROTFLMAO!

I'm pretty sure the last person he did like turned into Mr. Sunshine.

I don't think Kimmy likes me much anymore. ROTFLMAO!Its really that I can't respond to my thread as due to blackice's security measures. And I really don't get what's so funny. You've said that like 3 times. Twice in posts and one in a strange PM. I don't get it.

Satanism isn't largely practiced to the insane extent that you are talking about. It is mostly just an extreme opposite of Christianity.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html

here comes nicky the christian to tell us all about religion... (sarchasm not intended)

@Nicky
1.) Key word was largely.
2.) Whether or not Christianity or Satanism came first they are still pretty much two side of the same coin.
3.) Just because one website says something doesn't mean that is the way it everywhere.

Satanism is for selfish impulsive morons.

Satanism is for selfish impulsive morons.
Or the ones who were told it is right when they were little kids! Don't be so judgmental and people would enjoy your company!
Make it a great day and god bless!

Yeah... they were told to be selfish impulsive morons when they were little kids. No one stays little forever, by the time you hit nine years old you begin to make decisions for yourself.

Satanism is for selfish impulsive morons.
I miss you.

Christianity is for stuck up holier than though prudes.

And Atheism isn't?

Nope. Its for those of us who just don't believe there is anything after death. We don't believe that everyone who doesn't agree with us is going to Hell. Or that our beliefs are better than everyone elses.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Atheists are the most pompous, stuck up people on the planet, and think that anyone with faith in a higher being is an idiot (you're the perfect example). As far as Christianity goes, name one Christian principal that doesn't require one to improve oneself. Christians are still human. They have flaws. But their faith cant be blamed for their short comings.

I don't think people are stupid for believing in a higher being. I have said it before, if it makes people happy, then I encourage them to believe in God and I am happy for them. The thing I hate about Christians is that they (or at least a lot of the ones I know) tend to try and force their beliefs on other people, and have an annoying holier than though point of view. With the exception of a couple of my friends, every Christian I have ever met immediately tried to convert me and force their beliefs on me when they discovered I was atheist.

Well, why do you think Christian 'force' their beliefs on others? Because God told them to. They'd be going against their beliefs if they did the opposite just to fit in.

Thats a terrible way to live life. Being an asshole cuz your God told you to? Thats like modern day crusades, albiet to a less extreme extent. And "following their beliefs" as you put it, is fitting in. Christianity is the predominant religion in America. We atheists are the misfits in America.

You know only some people are "assholes" as you so elegantly put it, and others aren't, just like with Atheists. But of course, it's wrong to stereotype all of YOU.

And yes, I do live my live (well, try to) by the word of my God. It's NOT a terrible way to live. Because I CHOOSE to live it this way.

And... I can't clearly form my thoughts right now, so i'll leave it at that. You could probably fill in the blanks of what left I want to say.

I meant not only is it terrible for you, but its terrible for us who don't wish to have your religious nonsense forced down our throats constantly. If you wanna be religious, go right ahead, but leave me alone. Its not fair to all us athiests for you to be preaching to us all the time.

Am I preaching to you right now?

Not at this exact moment, but you admit to trying to convert athiests, which is what I was griping about.

It's our job, and I don't care if you don't like it.

Its not your job. No one asked you to, no one pays you to do it, and no one wants you to do it. So just piss off.

You know what? I have never once preached to YOU personally... so get over yourself. I'm not doing this for money, or to get anyone to like me. It's not about ME.

As if your views were always asked for...

*sigh*

Sorry... sorry for getting mad....

I don't ever force my views on people. And it doesn't matter if you have preached to me personally, the fact that you have ever done it at all is bad enough. And you do berate my views on life and death, and see yours as the only possibility. And if its not about you, then what the hell is it about?
*Ugh* This is exactly why I didn't want you to come back, I always end up arguing with you over religion. I have no problem with religious people, but I hate you religious people who try to convert everyone to your religion.

Why do you always take what I say and twist it into the worst possible interpretation?

Do I do that to you? If I do I would like to know... and I'll stop.

I mean really... why are you getting so mad? You're more radical than I am.

1.) I didn't realize I was twisting your words, I was just repeating them.
2.) You don't necessarily twist my words, you just ignore the ones that don't suit you, and emphasize the ones that do.

Both Christians and Atheists think they're being oppressed (and they're both right, to an extent). It's just that Christians are getting mad because the minorities are trying to neutralize our country and the Atheists are angry because of the Christians scrambling to put themselves back on top by things like trying to get their religion taught in schools as science.

On that note-Having Christianity taught in school would be a disaster. Everyone always makes the argument that evolution is "just a theory" but so is everything else in science that isn't law. And scientific law is only that something happens and not why it happens.

1.) I didn't realize I was twisting your words, I was just repeating them.
2.) You don't necessarily twist my words, you just ignore the ones that don't suit you, and emphasize the ones that do.
Yeah exactly... that's what I meant to say. That's what you do.

But in all reality, why the heck do we even bother with each other? Neither is going to agree.

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Though to assure Floyd that he wasn't completely ignored... I, honestly, couldn't care less weather or not Christianity was taught in schools as science. I really don't.

The ones who believe will believe weather or not it's taught to them in a school (even though subconsciously Atheism IS taught in schools but... whateverrr... different argument).

Christians just get so worked up over the idea that maybe Christianity isn't hocus pocus... and that maybe there COULD be science involved. I don't understand how that makes it any less significant.

If you really believe that God is the creator of everything, then obviously that would include math and science.

But noo... they rather think that it's all a big magic trick!

The ones who believe will believe weather or not it's taught to them in a school
Yeah, I think the main reason they want it is because they want to convert the non-believers whereas in science there isn't much in the way of believers and non-believers considering not many children go to any sort of scientific "church".
(even though subconsciously Atheism IS taught in schools but... whateverrr... different argument).
I know what you mean, chances are the majority of science teachers are biased against Christianity and don't go out of their way much to explain that it's a theory.
Christians just get so worked up over the idea that maybe Christianity isn't hocus pocus... and that maybe there COULD be science involved. I don't understand how that makes it any less significant.
If you really believe that God is the creator of everything, then obviously that would include math and science.
But noo... they rather think that it's all a big magic trick!
The thing that bothers me about Christianity is how they fill in gaps with "God did it" or how the devil gave us proof of evolution to trick us in to not believing in god.

Its not that scientists are biast against Christianity, I mean I have had Christian science teachers, its that it is against the law for them to teach it in school. As it should be. But lets not get into this.

Fundamentalist Christians are the reason I can't get married, so I'm not exactly too happy with them, however I do respect that they actually believe in something and are willing to place that much faith in something and stick with it.

Before law, before philosophy, before religion and morality, people were having sex. It's human.

If you break it down though, law, philosophy, religion and morality all brought their own negatives to society as we see it today. Without religion, I feel humanity might not be where it is today, not so much on a creationist's side of things, but, more on a "we need answers" side of things.

When the average person knew how to grow corn, and knew nothing about mathematics, physics, sciences in general, of course explaining a bolt of lightning was easier by saying, "Well, some Deity out there dropped a bolt from the heavens." It was far more plausible than explaining how it was done through ESD or other scientific principles.

I think Humanity was a blank slate, and all constraints brought upon us will be our undoing.

Even saying, "Doing everything in moderation." should really be, "Do most things in moderation."

I wouldn't say I hate Christianity. It's just too broad. I dislike elements of it, but at the end of the day a Christian is one who strives to live "Christ-like". I can't say that's a bad example.

Most Christians dont strive to be Christ-like, at least not in anything more than name. Most Christians are the most cruel and judgemental of people.

heya..i agreee wid ya jigga
i hate to hear pple say..'everything started with this big explosion or to quote a highly qualified but stupid tutor who we both know ' huge amount of energy and cells were formed and these evolved'
This theory goes against my religious principles as my Bible said that 'God created the heavens and the earth'. All those people who believe this 'Big Bang Theory' need to bring evidence of what the universe existance was before this big 'bang'..so Bring the Damn evidence...lol

God. Another idiot? Geez. Why can't more newbies be cool, like Supa Fool?

What you fail to realize, you giant contradiction, is that it is impossible to obtain emperical evidence from that far in the past. However, it is still viewed as factual information within the scientific community, and there is much more evidence to support the big bang and evolution, then there is to support, God created the world. And he put people on it. The end.

Before you go saying I just think this kids dumb cuz I am atheist, take into acount that I acknowledge Nickys intelligence.

How the hell do U exist? where did you come from? how is it possible that u can think and type all that shyte u jus typed? its all due to something ..more importantly someone. that someone being God...you know what...go to sleep and if or when u wake tomorrow ask your self who created the sunrise...and more importantly the the sun..

Good things come to those who wait..........
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maybe you didnt comprehend his name..he acknowleges that he is a fool and since great minds think alike ..i guess that wud make you a fool too wouldnt it tosser?

How the hell do U exist? where did you come from? how is it possible that u can think and type all that shyte u jus typed? its all due to something ..more importantly someone. that someone being God...you know what...go to sleep and if or when u wake tomorrow ask your self who created the sunrise...and more importantly the the sun..
That my friend is one of the great questions of life, however poorly and un-elloquently you worded it. But its not because of God. God is just a creation of the human mind, made to explain the world, like every religion since the dawn of time. Also, in the future, would you mind writing with at least a modicom of intelligence, instead of this utter load of shit you present me? You know, a complete sentence, with proper grammar, and punctuation, the whole bit. Instead...of talking...like this..and mispelling words like jus, and shyte...when they should be just, and shite?

maybe you didnt comprehend his name..he acknowleges that he is a fool and since great minds think alike ..i guess that wud make you a fool too wouldnt it tosser?

I think you have quite adequately proven that a username does not correspond to said users intelligence.

I've only come close to deleting a post due to lack of intelligence a few times, this is one of them.

maybe you didnt comprehend his name..he acknowleges that he is a fool and since great minds think alike ..i guess that wud make you a fool too wouldnt it tosser?
Was he speaking of me with this?

I believe so. Lets just hope we can run him off quickly. We need Gussa and the Gauntlet.

Atheism is yet anther invention of the human mind... :P

Aw man! I hate school projects, Spanish speeches, and insanely difficult chemistry tests! They make me miss some of the most fun arguments.

And if I may bring up a past argument, what's the point of making an age for consent? Kids have sex. It's what they do. If a kid's responsible he can make the choice, but that's really up to parents and schools. I bet if you surveyed most 13 year olds, even 14, they wouldn't even know that sex at that age was against the law.

Napalm said no secks allowed...

Atheism is yet anther invention of the human mind... :P

Well, not really. Its just putting a word on the fact.

*sigh*

Napalm said no secks allowed...To be frank, I try my best to keep threads on track, but once its gotten to this point, I can't really say that deleting anything will accomplish much. Oh well.