i alwasy wonder what people mean when they ask if there is intelligetn life in outer space....we are in outer space dammit!

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I never really noticed that...

Hmmmmmmnnnnnnnn...........

Welp, thats spam if I've ever seen it.

But, I guess I should say sumtin so...Maybe humans aren't intelligent. We have all theese "reality" T.V. shows that make us seem pretty stupid. I guess we are to let "The Simple Life" run for three seasons.

well humans are at least sentinal www.dictionary.com beings so thats more intelligent than most things, except dolphins dey be teh smartness

There is intelligent life in outer space, and humans don't count because humans aren't intelligent. By the way, I just saw Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy today. Awsome concept, awsome special effects, awsome innovation, not sure how to describe the actual "goodness" of the film, it was interesting for sure. One thing i can say though, CORPSE BRIDE! YAY! HOOOOOORAY!!! SAW THE PREVIEW! SPEECHLESS! well actualy i was more like. /OO\ with my mouth agape and a look on my face like a retard at Chuck E.Cheese
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(Corpse bride is a new animated movie by Tim Burton if you have no idea what im talking about)

well, we are somewhat in outer space, though we're in the section of inner planets, which ends at the first Asteroid belt past Mars, don't know what it's called

the universe is weird i have problems talking about it but how can the universe go on forever... or just stop, which goes to show how little we really know. I dont really believe in god so to say but there has to be some higher power of intelligence at work doesnt there?

no, there doesn't, but we're not sure, that's the problem, maybe our galaxy really is in a marble that is put together with other marbles to make up the universe, and no, the universe IS FINITE, that's the end of that, ah a pun, really makes you laugh doesn't it, it is finite because it grows, if it grows, how can it contain everything?

like at the end of the first Men in Black movie...

exactly like men in black flip dude and by the way frookie nice play on words :happy: any ways im not sure about the universe or if it really "exists" but the way frookie said it, makes the universe seem alive...wut if we are inside some big like animal thing...... like a cellular world of our own but to somthing bigger...that would be weird

or like the end of the second men in black where he opens up the door and then there is a bunch of bigass aliens just chillin by the locker he just opened

or like the end of the second men in black where he opens up the door and then there is a bunch of bigass aliens just chillin by the locker he just opened
what do u mean "BIGASS" aliens?
it was a tiny civilization! and if their entire civilization lives on earth how does that make them aliens? arnt they earthlings?

Frookie, That marble idea is called a galaxy, and yes there are many galaxies all around the universe. It grows so it can hold everything that it made, by it i mean the big bang. If we could travel faster than the speed of light then we would be able to see when the universe began and all of history. But we can't :'(.Also I'm pretty sure the word is infinate.

what do u mean "BIGASS" aliens?
it was a tiny civilization! and if their entire civilization lives on earth how does that make them aliens? arnt they earthlings?

NO!!! at the end where agent j opens the door that says do not open and when you see them the in a locker room in a little locker on rows and rows of lockers by BIG aliens.
If you still don't know what i am talking about watch it for yourself.

NO!!! at the end where agent j opens the door that says do not open and when you see them the in a locker room in a little locker on rows and rows of lockers by BIG aliens.
If you still don't know what i am talking about watch it for yourself.
oooh i thought u said there were aliens in the locker, but they were the ones that were in the locker looking out now i understand what u said :happy:
yea i saw that movie

glad you understand

yes but we are not intellegant

"On a flea, there is a smaller flea which irritates it; and then on this flea one even smaller; and then yet another to bother that one. Ad infinitum."
-Jonathan Swift *more or less*

I see this idea occuring a lot in the thread, so I had to post the quote.
I have some complicated thoughts on the universe, but I'm afraid that mentioning them will cause the universe to implode on itself to fit it's own reality, taking all life with it.
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While I won't give my opinion on the universe, I can say a theory I have which corresponds with it. If enough beings believe in an entity, then a new conscienceness forms in the universe, fitting the thoughts of that belief. So I think there is a God, and a Buddha, and whatever else is worshipped, but only so long as people continue to believe in them.
And we should. Keep believing in everything you know to be true, or it could just as quickly be something that never actually existed.

All just theories, but it's something to think about.

But with that stated, I will allow my theory of the universe. I think that it doens't actually exist. Technically, it's impossible for anything to exist. In terms of religion, God was the first enitity, and he created all things. This is all well and fine, but God had to have come from something. In terms of science, we must examine the law which states: "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed; simply stored and converted." This may be true now, but all the energy in the universe had to be created somehow. Even if it is a false law, that still doesn't explain where everything came from.
But, even though it isn't possible to exist, we do. And if we exist, despite the impossiblities, why can't Gods or aliens?

Just in case my first theory is true, just keep believing in the universe. And in conclusion of the second theory, just accept that things exist. That is all you can do.

Sorry if I confuse anyone, this just seemed like a good place to post my thoughts.

i think i understand now socartes.

I'd like to go down in history with that kind of rep, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
Dang. After 90 seconds of searching the smilies, we have no Socrates smilie.
XD

Ryu-Nacho: The energy from our universe came from the bigbang. The big bang was created (according to string theory) where two <i>membranes</i> collide causing an explosion like the big bang. Also some think it came from a never ending cycle (such as the membrane one) where a black hole eventually sucks everything into it, and then it explodes. And then it repeats.

I'd like to go down in history with that kind of rep, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
Dang. After 90 seconds of searching the smilies, we have no Socrates smilie.
XD
too bad maybe they the admins will make one.

Ryu-Nacho: The energy from our universe came from the bigbang. The big bang was created (according to string theory) where two <i>membranes</i> collide causing an explosion like the big bang. Also some think it came from a never ending cycle (such as the membrane one) where a black hole eventually sucks everything into it, and then it explodes. And then it repeats.

The laws of science still state that energy can not be created nor destroyed. The energy used in the big bang was created somehow. If energy had never been created, then the universe would be a simple void. I don't know whether the big bang theory is correct or not, but it still doesn't explain where anything actually comes from.
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life, the universe, everything only exists for one reason...
cheese.

mmmmm cheese is good.

The energy from the bigbang was created when two membranes (string theory) collided. Or when the black hole exploded.

The theory does explain where everything came from. It shows how everything was created and everything. The stuff in the explosion had the basic elements and stuff for building life. I don't know if you know a lot about the big bang or stuff like that (im guessing you don't) but read up on it. I'll try to find a link as i am bad at explaining things.

what the heck r u talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Science. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!!!

The energy from the bigbang was created when two membranes (string theory) collided. Or when the black hole exploded.

The theory does explain where everything came from. It shows how everything was created and everything. The stuff in the explosion had the basic elements and stuff for building life. I don't know if you know a lot about the big bang or stuff like that (im guessing you don't) but read up on it. I'll try to find a link as i am bad at explaining things.

So what you're saying is that the world and the universe was created by PURE chance. That "2 membranes" collided and somehow managed to create life as it is today, even though there was no point or reason to. It just did and what no living scientist can explain.

I bet you'll say that we "evoved" from pond scum, too.

The big bang was not about chance but time. Have you ever heard of string theory? It is all about chance. And also It's not chance that (if its true) two membranes collided, its just a matter of time.

You haven't learned about Evolution yet eh? Either i misunderstood but you just asked me if we just blammed here ( no we didn't) and then you asked if we evolved from bacteria. Also there are thousands of scientist that can explain what im talking about. They're called physicist.

Sorry if i offended your religious beliefs.

Quick note: I already know a bit on the big bang and the string theory, but just to be safe, I did some research.

Alright Proims, I understand that two 'membranes' collided. But technically, they didn't actually create energy as you keep mentioning. The energy potential was already there to begin with, and the two colliding membranes released thier stored energy.
And you say that it was the basis for everything. This can't be a true statement. It may have been the basis for the current physical universe, but if the big bang theory is correct, then our universe will revert back to such a form in billions and billions of years, creating foundations for the next universe.
But still, this does not explain how anything actually came to be. Suppose time is finite. I assume this to be a false statement, but we need to find a good starting place for existence. We will use the period of the big bang which created our universe. Suppose this was when anything appeared, the first time anything happened in the finite spaces which the universe can become a part of.
The origin of the big bang was a ball, more or less. It was incredibly dense, and contained all the material needed to create the universe. Matter, energy, and foundations of philosophical life, whatever that may be. But it was all just there. Nothing yet explains why it was there, or how. I realize that the big bang theory, on the assumption that it repeats like it says, says the universe before ours pulled itself together and formed this ball. But that is not the answer I am looking for. I want to know how the materials of that ball were created, where the actual source of anything is. Science, as far as I know, doesn't even have a theory for this. My explanation behind that is because we don't actually exist; it's a physical impossiblitly.
And on the basis of religion, for those who are curious to see my views on such, God can't technically exist either. But if we can't but do, then he may also. I just don't know where God came from; he is the energy that creates and binds the universe to a fundamentalist, but his energy came out of no where.

*Sigh*.
We should close this thread. I don't see it going anywhere.

One of my first post said that this was a repeating process. You should read it. Time is a creation of man as its not an event mass or anything. Just like a meter its a measuring unit and nothing else. So it's immediately infinite not finite. Also all the material from the bigbang was there from when the previous universe was absorbed by a black hole. I don't know where that energy came from but it could go back forever. I might not get what your saying, but how do we not exist? Seriously are you trying to be deep or what?

can you please just translate what you said into english please.

Just read his post. Then after every little question or thing read mine. As i answered it that way.