Dudeo
05-30-2007, 10:10 AM
At the risk of being called insane, I want to debate in support of anarchy. What, I wonder, are your arguments against it? I bet some of them can be refuted...
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View Full Version : Anarchy Dudeo 05-30-2007, 10:10 AM At the risk of being called insane, I want to debate in support of anarchy. What, I wonder, are your arguments against it? I bet some of them can be refuted... Drunken_Shinobi 05-30-2007, 10:42 AM I don't really support Anarchy generally because it just seems way too chaotic to live somewhere where here is no government, law, or law enforcement. If we lived in Anarchy then we wouldn't even be able to walk the streets because there would some jerk out there will get a gun and start shooting at people for the hell of it and he wouldn't get in trouble either. The only way I can see Anarchy work is if it were perfect and the society somehow lived peacefully without laws, but that is a very ideal situation. Natus Lumen 05-30-2007, 12:34 PM Debate in support of anarchy? Are you quite serious? The whole point of anarchy is no organization, while the point of organized debate, as is advocated and promoted by a debate forum, has quite the opposite intentions. Debating in support of anarchy would be going into the White House and shooting as many people as you can. Anarchy is a paradox in and of itself. The definitions of Anarchism are thus: 1. The theroy that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable, and should be abolished. 2. Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists. 3. Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority. While anarchy is slightly different (the absence of any form of government; political mahem; absence of any cohering principle, as a common standard or purpose) it all means the same thing: no f'ing rules. No one to tell you what to do so the state can exist in complete, lawless turmoil. This is why anarchy can't exist. If anarchy does exist, anyone who calls anarchy anarchy is opposing the very ideas of anarchy, as they are organizing a group of people with an obvious common purpose. To all intents and purposes, anarchy is seen as a political view. However, anarchy is the complete absence of organized politics. It's like how in the Bible they have a word for something that shouldn't exist: murder, or whatever they call it in the Bible. Dudeo 05-30-2007, 01:29 PM Anarchy, the type I am supporting, is the lack of government and/or order. I knew undertaking this would cause controversy. Not necessarily mayhem. Trouble-causers would likely be taken out quickly by peace-keepers. This is natural selection in the sense that any society needs to be stable in order to operate, therefore those unable to contribute to said stability must be quickly taken out in any society, therefore only those in favor of stability remain. You can do anything, so long as it doesn't interfere with the anarchial structure of the society. Natus Lumen 05-30-2007, 03:22 PM There are no peace keepers in anarchy! If there are, then it isn't anarchy. Unless they're self-appointed, in which case, they are the self-established government, which makes it a bureaucracy, until they get killed by anrchists, and then it's anarchy again. Ryu-Nacho 05-30-2007, 05:58 PM At the risk of being called insane, I want to debate in support of anarchy. What, I wonder, are your arguments against it? I bet some of them can be refuted... You support anarchy? Hurry, get rid of your avy and username; they show signs of organization! gabrielwhist 05-30-2007, 11:26 PM an·ar·chy: confusion; chaos; disorder. How can anyone be stupid enough to believe that anarchy could work when it is by definition chaotic? Anarchy is like communism, but even stupider. And that is saying something. gussa 05-31-2007, 06:37 AM Anarchy, the type I am supporting, is the lack of government and/or order. I knew undertaking this would cause controversy. Not necessarily mayhem. Trouble-causers would likely be taken out quickly by peace-keepers. This is natural selection in the sense that any society needs to be stable in order to operate, therefore those unable to contribute to said stability must be quickly taken out in any society, therefore only those in favor of stability remain. You can do anything, so long as it doesn't interfere with the anarchial structure of the society. that would be called oppressive communism MrNaPaLm32 05-31-2007, 09:38 AM Anarchy doesn't work. IT never has, and never will. Dudeo 05-31-2007, 09:55 AM You all missed the point. Anarchy meaning without laws or leadership. Anarchy by definition is not chaos! Chaos may ensue, but an anarchial society does not need to be chaotic! The basic nature of any animal is survival, so the ones who kill are killed. People commonly misunderstand and misdefine anarchy. The freedom is in doing and being done to. Serious anarchial society has never even been attempted! Those in power will not allow it. So the only way of knowing whether anarchy works is to try. In keeping my posts short, I cannot fully explain all of anarchy at once. Actually, I should set up another account for the express purpose of anarchial discussion. It doesn't fit with the alias "DudeoLongshire." MrNaPaLm32 05-31-2007, 10:28 AM You all missed the point. Anarchy meaning without laws or leadership. Anarchy by definition is not chaos! Chaos may ensue, but an anarchial society does not need to be chaotic! The basic nature of any animal is survival, so the ones who kill are killed. People commonly misunderstand and misdefine anarchy. The freedom is in doing and being done to. Serious anarchial society has never even been attempted! Those in power will not allow it. So the only way of knowing whether anarchy works is to try. In keeping my posts short, I cannot fully explain all of anarchy at once. Actually, I should set up another account for the express purpose of anarchial discussion. It doesn't fit with the alias "DudeoLongshire."The absence of any authority creates enough problems by itself. Bandits will be the pillagers of the countryside. The rise of vigilantes will only add to the problem, increasing violence and destruction, as opposed to order. This is evident in history, with the rise of the Regulators in the Illinois territory to counter the Bandits, in which violence and crime increased on both sides. With this kind of violence, an anarchistic society would Not Be Productive Be reserved for toughened Adult men Not many Women No children No Trade No EconomySounds Pretty chaotic to me. gussa 06-01-2007, 05:58 AM *sigh* anarchy is much like communism. in theory, it works. but in practice, well lets just say many have tried communism and many have failed. MrNaPaLm32 06-01-2007, 09:34 AM *sigh* anarchy is much like communism. in theory, it works. but in practice, well lets just say many have tried communism and many have failed.They're two completely different things. Drunken_Shinobi 06-01-2007, 09:37 AM Yeah...even though Communism doesn't work too well today it's not complete chaos like Anarchy. gussa 06-01-2007, 09:41 AM im not talking about that.. im saying that in theory, the two seen to work well. but if you try then in practice, they fuck up yes i know they couldnt be more different in terms of policies and philosophy. but the fact that they both work IN THEORY is what im pointing out diet poop 06-01-2007, 04:03 PM You can theorise about anarchy all you want, but it will never work. gussa 06-02-2007, 10:00 PM neither will communism inkblot 06-02-2007, 10:14 PM Anarchy is impossible. Eventually, even if a leader doesn't rise up, businesses will take up most of the roles of government. And we will all be royally screwed. Because really, would you rather pay a tax or a fee for a police force? Anarchy is the opposite of communism, and both are ideas about government taken to the extreme. Nothing good ever came out of political extremism. gussa 06-02-2007, 10:16 PM exactly MrNaPaLm32 06-02-2007, 11:50 PM Anarchy is the opposite of communism, and both are ideas about government taken to the extreme. Communism is not the opposite of anarchy. I believe the word you're looking for is totalitarianism. Natus Lumen 06-03-2007, 01:59 PM You all missed the point. Anarchy meaning without laws or leadership. Anarchy by definition is not chaos! Chaos may ensue, but an anarchial society does not need to be chaotic! The basic nature of any animal is survival, so the ones who kill are killed. People commonly misunderstand and misdefine anarchy. The freedom is in doing and being done to. Serious anarchial society has never even been attempted! Those in power will not allow it. So the only way of knowing whether anarchy works is to try. In keeping my posts short, I cannot fully explain all of anarchy at once. Actually, I should set up another account for the express purpose of anarchial discussion. It doesn't fit with the alias "DudeoLongshire." Are you freaking retarted? Anarchy is the absence of government. If even the slightest hint of organization or hierarchy is infused into this...lack of system, it becomes something that is not anarchy. It is not possible to have a functional society where there are no rules. And yes, that's what anarchy is. There is no such thing as organized anarchy, because when anarchy becomes organized, it becomes something that is not anarchy. Anarchy is complete and total equality, where every person has exactly as much power as they can gain on their own. Now, when someone gains more power than any other one person, they become the ruler. Thus, it becomes a rather unorthodox monarchy. Or, if the people come together and form groups that go and kick other groups asses in an anarchy, then it's a kind of disorderly oligarchy, like exists/existed in the Middle East. If the people attempt to form a group in order to decide how to keep disorganization, it becomes a democracy or a republic. Anarchy can't exist for long, because any sort of change that is brought about to anarchy makes it something else. gussa 06-04-2007, 07:20 AM also it is infused in a persons natural instinct to band together to become stronger. Dudeo 06-04-2007, 10:21 AM I wouldn't care whether or not anarchy would work. I would instate it so I could kill motherf*ckers who deserve it. Congratulations, this thread is OVER. Natus Lumen 06-04-2007, 12:31 PM That's called a dictatorship, or if you're running it, a dick-tatorship. Hellraiser 06-04-2007, 12:38 PM @Dudeolongshire: http://forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-Granny_kick_baby.gif I hate you, end of story. Go do something useful of your time, like fuck a goat you sick-o. Dudeo 06-04-2007, 05:31 PM That's called a dictatorship, or if you're running it, a dick-tatorship. Ha! One does not run an anarchial society, an anarchial society forces one TO run. ===== @Dudeolongshire: I hate you, end of story. Go do something useful of your time, like fuck a goat you sick-o. Where are you going with this? Only a sicko himself could conceive of a person fucking a goat. Now die. Drunken_Shinobi 06-04-2007, 08:08 PM @Dudeolongshire: http://forumspile.com/Owned/Owned-Granny_kick_baby.gif I hate you, end of story. Go do something useful of your time, like fuck a goat you sick-o. Well that wasn't necessary. Ha! One does not run an anarchial society, an anarchial society forces one TO run. So you're admitting that Anarchy doesn't work? gussa 06-05-2007, 08:46 AM I wouldn't care whether or not anarchy would work. I would instate it so I could kill motherf*ckers who deserve it. so is that the only reason you support anarchy? Dudeo 06-05-2007, 09:47 AM Not the only reason. It only needs to make sense to me, what anybody else thinks about it just doesn't matter. It's been rationalized in my mind. Natus Lumen 06-05-2007, 01:25 PM What can i say, i really don't like him he seems like a jerk-off who thinks he knows what he is talking about, when the truth really is, he is just a little kid who is a complete idiot and thinks he knows what he is talking about when he doesn't even understand that anarchy could never work, nor could communism. And its all because people don't have motivation to work out either types of govt. it could never work, unless, you prescribed prozac to the entire nation to keep them under rule (Communism) but anarchy could never work because only a few people would want to learn to become a Dr because they were interested, what other thing do they gain out of it? nothing! they don't make extra money, alls they get is the self satisfaction for themselves, and in the real world that isn't enough to support it. -Hellraiser PS about fucking a goat... You just seemed like you were stupid enough to do it thats all diet poop 06-05-2007, 06:29 PM Well...China and Vietnam are communist, and have been for a while. So really, communism does work, just not in a way we like. Drunken_Shinobi 06-05-2007, 07:31 PM What can i say, i really don't like him he seems like a jerk-off who thinks he knows what he is talking about, when the truth really is, he is just a little kid who is a complete idiot and thinks he knows what he is talking about when he doesn't even understand that anarchy could never work, nor could communism. And its all because people don't have motivation to work out either types of govt. it could never work, unless, you prescribed prozac to the entire nation to keep them under rule (Communism) but anarchy could never work because only a few people would want to learn to become a Dr because they were interested, what other thing do they gain out of it? nothing! they don't make extra money, alls they get is the self satisfaction for themselves, and in the real world that isn't enough to support it. I see you've been watching Equilibrium. Not the only reason. It only needs to make sense to me, what anybody else thinks about it just doesn't matter. It's been rationalized in my mind. Well...that sounded completely arrogant. Natus Lumen 06-05-2007, 07:51 PM I see you've been watching Equilibrium. WTF is that... yea, im gonna log to Hellraiser now. Drunken_Shinobi 06-05-2007, 07:53 PM Equilibrium has a similar idea to what you were discussing (keeping people under rule by using prozac); however, in Equilibrium everyone is on this drug called "Prozium" that flattens their emotions and all of them don't even bother rebelling or doing anything about the totalitarian government that is controlling them. Natus Lumen 06-06-2007, 01:34 AM That sounds like a combination of The Chumscrubber and Dark City. PS, Luke, thanks for making me post like an idiot. gussa 06-06-2007, 07:29 AM Well...China and Vietnam are communist, and have been for a while. So really, communism does work, just not in a way we like. well in theory, communism doesn't involve propaganda and mass control.... and it is theorized that all are equal in a communist country... if you look at china and north Korea, you'd know that isn't true. Dudeo 06-06-2007, 09:54 AM What can i say, i really don't like him he seems like a jerk-off who thinks he knows what he is talking about, when the truth really is, he is just a little kid who is a complete idiot and thinks he knows what he is talking about when he doesn't even understand that anarchy could never work, nor could communism. And its all because people don't have motivation to work out either types of govt. it could never work, unless, you prescribed prozac to the entire nation to keep them under rule (Communism) but anarchy could never work because only a few people would want to learn to become a Dr because they were interested, what other thing do they gain out of it? nothing! they don't make extra money, alls they get is the self satisfaction for themselves, and in the real world that isn't enough to support it. -Hellraiser PS about fucking a goat... You just seemed like you were stupid enough to do it thats all What a fucking bitch. I'd rather have complete freedom and not be sure about my safety than have some freedom and still not be entirely sure about my safety.Also- Anarchy isn't a form of government, it's a lack thereof. Or haven't you been listening to our conversation? And as to "little kid"- I'm 6'5" in my bare feet. And as to "complete idiot"- My GPA for finals last year was 94. MrNaPaLm32 06-06-2007, 06:13 PM My GPA for finals last year was 94.A GPA isn't an average of grades. But whatever. Hellraiser 06-06-2007, 08:02 PM Ok, well i can play that game! Yea, I'm related to Bill Gates! point being, you can say whatever you want over the internet, and i don't care how tall you are, or how smart you say you are you a dipshit < end of story. How about you grow a pair and move on smart ass? PS, Luke, thanks for making me post like an idiot. Hey, i was 95% done when i realized it said logged on as you. You woulda done the same thing >.> MrNaPaLm32 06-07-2007, 12:40 AM Hey, i was 95% done when i realized it said logged on as you. You woulda done the same thing >.>Copy/Paste? gabrielwhist 06-07-2007, 01:17 AM You all missed the point. Anarchy meaning without laws or leadership. Anarchy by definition is not chaos! Chaos may ensue, but an anarchial society does not need to be chaotic! The basic nature of any animal is survival, so the ones who kill are killed. People commonly misunderstand and misdefine anarchy. The freedom is in doing and being done to. Serious anarchial society has never even been attempted! Those in power will not allow it. So the only way of knowing whether anarchy works is to try. In keeping my posts short, I cannot fully explain all of anarchy at once. Actually, I should set up another account for the express purpose of anarchial discussion. It doesn't fit with the alias "DudeoLongshire." Read a dictionary dumb ass. Words have multiple definitions. One of which, for anarchism, is chaos. ===== Well...China and Vietnam are communist, and have been for a while. So really, communism does work, just not in a way we like. They are not communist, they are socialists claiming to be communist. China's economy is almost as Capatalist as America's. ===== Not the only reason. It only needs to make sense to me, what anybody else thinks about it just doesn't matter. It's been rationalized in my mind. A.) If you have rationalized it in your mind, congratulations you are a fucking idiot. B.) No one gives a shit what you think, so no. It doesn't "only need to make sense to you". C.) I thought America was stupid before, but thank God they are smarter than you. ===== im not talking about that.. im saying that in theory, the two seen to work well. but if you try then in practice, they fuck up yes i know they couldnt be more different in terms of policies and philosophy. but the fact that they both work IN THEORY is what im pointing out Sorry Gussa, neither work in theory. They are both terrible ideas, though I guess that is only an opinion. gussa 06-07-2007, 06:59 AM Sorry Gussa, neither work in theory. They are both terrible ideas, though I guess that is only an opinion. in the universe of theory, communism is supposed to work because theoretically, they do not take into account the fact that people are greedy. Natus Lumen 06-07-2007, 11:12 AM I how long it will be before Dudeolongshire stops defending his point. It isn't like we don't understand what he's saying, it's that he's wrong. Hellraiser 06-07-2007, 01:02 PM I how long it will be before Dudeolongshire stops defending his point. It isn't like we don't understand what he's saying, it's that he's wrong. + he is an idiot ^.^ Dudeo 06-07-2007, 01:23 PM A GPA isn't an average of grades. But whatever. Grade Point Average. What else can it mean? Yo, hellraiser, say whatever the hell you want, but you'd better be able to back it up. I will fucking drive to Texas and pound the shit out of you. Your ass is grass. Drunken_Shinobi 06-07-2007, 07:24 PM Grade Point Average. What else can it mean? Yo, hellraiser, say whatever the hell you want, but you'd better be able to back it up. I will fucking drive to Texas and pound the shit out of you. Your ass is grass. A Grade Point Average is the average of the number of points you accumulated with your grades over the year. The "GPA" you posted up did not seem like a GPA, in fact it seemed more like a percentage. An example of a GPA would be something like 3.67 or 4.00. Unless your school has a different way of calculating their GPA then the "GPA" you posted isn't really a GPA. MrNaPaLm32 06-07-2007, 09:31 PM Grade Point Average. What else can it mean? Yo, hellraiser, say whatever the hell you want, but you'd better be able to back it up. I will fucking drive to Texas and pound the shit out of you. Your ass is grass.its out of 4 points, not 100. Drunken_Shinobi 06-07-2007, 11:02 PM Unless he goes to school in Mexico I don't think the GPA would be any different. gussa 06-08-2007, 02:48 AM or he could mean that out of 4 he got like 2.5 therefore a %62.5 gabrielwhist 06-08-2007, 04:05 AM in the universe of theory, communism is supposed to work because theoretically, they do not take into account the fact that people are greedy. Good point. Also, even if it did work the way it is theorized, I would still hate it. gussa 06-08-2007, 04:26 AM everyone equal and happy? you would hate that? Natus Lumen 06-09-2007, 12:24 AM There is no such thing as true happiness. We feel happy at times, but as long as we're human, we can't be, for a long period of time, happy. At my school, they calculate our GPA as the average of our final grades at the semester all averaged together. For example, at the end of the year my GPA (yes, I know for a fact they called it a GPA, it was on a transcript) was a 98.7. In colleges and universities, however, it's different. They calculate GPAs in colleges based on points out of four, but they also have to take into account the number of hours you're taking and your community service, and then your grades as well. Of course, the education system of grades 5-12 is different in every state, so I'm sure it's different for everyone here. Drunken_Shinobi 06-09-2007, 12:21 PM Is that how they do the GPA all over Texas? gussa 06-09-2007, 10:38 PM haha Australias equivalent of a GPA is easier to comprehend Drunken_Shinobi 06-09-2007, 11:04 PM The 4 point scale GPA that we have isn't too hard to figure out. gabrielwhist 06-10-2007, 01:25 AM everyone equal and happy? you would hate that? I, and most other blue blooded Americans, would not be happy in a commie society. Equal rights are important. But too have equal pay, housing, and all that other crap? That takes away diversity. We are who we are not only because of who raised us, or our genetic structure, but because of the life experiences we have had, and the struggles we must face. Communism destroys all that. I would rather live a terrible, painful, horrofic life with moments of glorious happines, than the bland boring day in day out rutine of communism. God damn commie sons of bitches need to stay the fuck outta America, else Imma need to buy me some more ammo. diet poop 06-10-2007, 10:35 AM I, and most other blue blooded Americans, would not be happy in a commie society. Equal rights are important. But too have equal pay, housing, and all that other crap? That takes away diversity. We are who we are not only because of who raised us, or our genetic structure, but because of the life experiences we have had, and the struggles we must face. Communism destroys all that. I would rather live a terrible, painful, horrofic life with moments of glorious happines, than the bland boring day in day out rutine of communism. God damn commie sons of bitches need to stay the fuck outta America, else Imma need to buy me some more ammo. I believe most Americans' blood is red...along with everyone elses on the planet. 0_o gussa 06-10-2007, 11:01 AM unless hes an alien!!!!! *cocks shotgun* Drunken_Shinobi 06-10-2007, 01:33 PM He's going to abduct us and then probe us on his weird alien saucer thing. gabrielwhist 06-10-2007, 09:03 PM I believe most Americans' blood is red...along with everyone elses on the planet. 0_o Blood is blue inside your body dumbass. It only turns red when exposed to oxygen. Also, its an old and classic saying, not something I was saying off the top of my head. Why don't you get an idea of what you are talking about before commenting? gussa 06-10-2007, 09:44 PM uhh... it was a joke... o_O Natus Lumen 06-10-2007, 10:51 PM Communism defeats the point of living, to go back to the roots of this thread, and contribute to the current conversation. What's the point of doing the same thing every day, eating the same food every day, living in the same place all your life, not ever owning anything you like to think you have, and being just the same as everyone else. I would rather be worse than everybody else than just the same, except I know I'm better. gussa 06-10-2007, 11:21 PM k whatever.... MrNaPaLm32 06-11-2007, 12:45 AM Blood is blue inside your body dumbass. It only turns red when exposed to oxygen. Also, its an old and classic saying, not something I was saying off the top of my head. Why don't you get an idea of what you are talking about before commenting?No, its not. Its all red. IF you don't believe me go find one of those "blue" veins and cut it. See what comes out. Someone's been watching too much magic school bus. And its "cold blooded" not blue blooded. Zetex 06-11-2007, 12:48 AM I thought it turned red when exposed to oxygen gabrielwhist 06-11-2007, 01:43 AM No, its not. Its all red. IF you don't believe me go find one of those "blue" veins and cut it. See what comes out. Someone's been watching too much magic school bus. And its "cold blooded" not blue blooded. The expression cold blooded refers to someone who feels no emotion when inflicting cruelty and harm, usually murder. The expresion I was speaking of is" blue-blooded americans" referring to those who are truly american. and yes blood is red when you cut yourself. good job. if you had actually read my post, then you would have known it turns red when exposed to oxygen. its blue inside your body. and wtf is a magic school bus? is that what they call the short bus you ride in reno? stop trying to correct people when you are dont know what you are talking about. dumb ass. MrNaPaLm32 06-11-2007, 02:02 AM The expression cold blooded refers to someone who feels no emotion when inflicting cruelty and harm, usually murder. The expresion I was speaking of is" blue-blooded americans" referring to those who are truly american. and yes blood is red when you cut yourself. good job. if you had actually read my post, then you would have known it turns red when exposed to oxygen. its blue inside your body. and wtf is a magic school bus? is that what they call the short bus you ride in reno? stop trying to correct people when you are dont know what you are talking about. dumb ass.Blood is not blue inside your body either. What do you think happens in the lungs? The oxygen attaches itself to the hemoglobin inside your red blood cells, making it red-er. Your blood is NEVER blue. I bellieve what you are referring to as being blue has nothing to do with oxygen, but rather carbon dioxide, which makes it way back up to the lungs for you to exhale. Can I make it any clearer? And the Magic School Bus is education for people who RIDE the short bus. I think its YOU who needs to take a quick stop to wikipedia to learn a little about gas-exchanges in warm-blooded animals. Dumbass. gussa 06-11-2007, 09:45 AM wow... this is a full blown argument about respiration... (now ive seen it all) Dudeo 06-11-2007, 10:13 AM Blood is not blue inside your body either. What do you think happens in the lungs? The oxygen attaches itself to the hemoglobin inside your red blood cells, making it red-er. Your blood is NEVER blue. I bellieve what you are referring to as being blue has nothing to do with oxygen, but rather carbon dioxide, which makes it way back up to the lungs for you to exhale. Can I make it any clearer? Blue blood turns red when it leaves the body. I agree with Napalm. Blue is more of a symbolic color, but blood is only true red when it is laden with oxygen molecules. ===== A Grade Point Average is the average of the number of points you accumulated with your grades over the year. The "GPA" you posted up did not seem like a GPA, in fact it seemed more like a percentage. An example of a GPA would be something like 3.67 or 4.00. Unless your school has a different way of calculating their GPA then the "GPA" you posted isn't really a GPA. Unless you were a senior in high school. Nothing is out of four until college. At least, not for me. Drunken_Shinobi 06-11-2007, 10:45 AM Unless you were a senior in high school. Nothing is out of four until college. At least, not for me. Well I am going to be a senior at my high school and the GPA system we use is out of four. diet poop 06-11-2007, 12:44 PM Blue blood turns red when it leaves the body. I agree with Napalm. Blue is more of a symbolic color, but blood is only true red when it is laden with oxygen molecules. Several points, 1. Gussa was correct, it was a joke. You should really try to control your temper. 2. You have done a wonderful job of shying away from actually admitting you were acting like a fool. I see you took up the tactic of siding with the enemy and trying to appear that you were saying the same thing all along, when in actuallity you simply fell victim to the common misconception that humans are some sort of mollusc. 3. All of you are wrong, blood is never blue. Ever. Not even when it lacks an oxygen molecule. In fact, if you've ever observed the way hemoglobin works you would realize that blood appears an even darker and more vivid shade of red when not carrying oxygen. So not only were you mistaken, you were inches away from having your head penetrate your rectum. MrNaPaLm32 06-11-2007, 01:32 PM 3. All of you are wrong, blood is never blue. Ever. Not even when it lacks an oxygen molecule. In fact, if you've ever observed the way hemoglobin works you would realize that blood appears an even darker and more vivid shade of red when not carrying oxygen. So not only were you mistaken, you were inches away from having your head penetrate your rectum.Excuse me, but I JUST said that. diet poop 06-11-2007, 01:52 PM Excuse me, but I JUST said that. Sorry about that Napalm, blue-blood man made it seem like you said something different. Nevertheless, he still didn't seem to get the fact that blood is never blue, never appears blue, and as far as the fields of science and medicine go, is never referred to as blue. Natus Lumen 06-11-2007, 09:05 PM For all of you who are culturally retarted (this includes most of you still arguing over the biological facts of blood), blue-blooded refers to anyone, not just Americans (as a matter of fact the term originated in France), who is born into the upper echelon of society. High class. If you're saying someone's truly, really, typically American (baseball, hot dogs, suing people left and right, etc.), you would say that they're the most red-blooded person you know of. The term blue-blooded refers to the fact that all of the really rich people in Victorian-period France and England were always really pale because that was the cool thing. Being pallid showed off the fact that you were rich enough to never have to do manual labor outside, etc.. So you were hot if you were pale. What do pale people have? Ugly blue veins sticking out of their skin all over their bodies. Blue-blooded. gabrielwhist 06-11-2007, 09:54 PM Ok, blue-blooded does refer to average americans, at least in the city where I live, and thats how it has been used my entire life. Also I believe my doctor more than any of you clowns, who once gave me a long boring lecture about how blood is blue inside of your body, when I asked him why your veins are blue, but blood is red. So jaw on all you want, but I believe a medical proffesional I have known all my life more than any of you. Natus Lumen 06-11-2007, 10:18 PM Overruled. (http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about763.html&highlight=) By several sources, actually. (http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t315040-0.html) Sorry, Gabrielwhist... (http://www.globalclassroom.org/blublud.html) I'm fairly sure your doctor is wrong. (http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bio99/bio99312.htm) This person explains it the best, I think. (http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060609194837AA2J8pg&show=7) I'm well aware that I called all of you arguing this point culturally retarted, but I'm afraid that I had to sink to yall's level so as to close this. If it makes you feel any better, Gabrielwhist, your doctor isn't a complete idiot. There are a lot of people, even medical specialists, who believe that blood is blue inside the body. It isn't hurting anyone to think that blood is blue inside the body, it's just an incorrect notion. I'm not trying to put you down, either. I promise. MrNaPaLm32 06-11-2007, 11:09 PM Also I believe my doctor more than any of you clowns, who once gave me a long boring lecture about how blood is blue inside of your body, when I asked him why your veins are blue, but blood is red. So jaw on all you want, but I believe a medical proffesional I have known all my life more than any of you.You better get a new doctor. The next thing he might say is to drink salt for your stomach ulcer. gabrielwhist 06-12-2007, 12:32 AM I have had him since I was about 4 or 5. One year he was out of town during my check up, so another doctor subbed in, and he practically ripped my balls off during the physical. So I am definitely staying with the doctor I have now, he makes the whole thing as quick and painless as possible. Natus Lumen 06-12-2007, 01:24 AM Thanks for that. I don't like the doctor in the town where I live, so I usually go to a doctor a little further away for physicals and such. The doctor I usually go to gives me what he calls his 'sex, drugs, and rock n' roll talk' every year. Very eccentric guy. Dudeo 06-12-2007, 07:44 AM The rare condition sulfhemoglobinemia results in green blood. -Wikipedia ===== Also, I suffer from partial color-blindness. Natus Lumen 06-12-2007, 11:38 AM I'm allergic to penacillin. That's the only health abnormality that I have, but it doesn't really affect me in any way, other than that I'm supposed to wear a bracelet that says I'm allergic. That way, if I pass out and I go to the hospital on the verge of death, they won't give me penacillin, which would probably kill me if I were on the verge of death. gabrielwhist 06-12-2007, 07:54 PM The only health abnormality I have is elephantitis...of the crotch. Jk. I can't think of any abnormalities except my allergic reaction to mangos. Hellraiser 06-12-2007, 08:12 PM I have had him since I was about 4 or 5. One year he was out of town during my check up, so another doctor subbed in, and he practically ripped my balls off during the physical. So I am definitely staying with the doctor I have now, he makes the whole thing as quick and painless as possible. im sure no one here REALLY needed or surely even wanted that info, you couldve just said "yea he wasn't as great as my old Dr. But lets never cover the subject of your balls again, thanks. - The rare condition sulfhemoglobinemia results in green blood. -Wikipedia Your an idiot a 10 year old kid could have written that dont you know? Even though it is true, never EVER sight your sources from wikipedia gabrielwhist 06-12-2007, 09:08 PM Are you kidding? Everyone always wants to no about my balls. They are extra juicy today, because it is so hot out. MrNaPaLm32 06-13-2007, 02:14 AM I'm allergic to penacillin. That's the only health abnormality that I have, but it doesn't really affect me in any way, other than that I'm supposed to wear a bracelet that says I'm allergic. That way, if I pass out and I go to the hospital on the verge of death, they won't give me penacillin, which would probably kill me if I were on the verge of death.penicillin is obsolete at this point. They wouldn't need to give it to you anyways. Penacillin is like, a cheap anti-bacterial drug. They have stuff now that deal 4x the damage at twice the cost. Dudeo 06-13-2007, 07:40 AM Your an idiot a 10 year old kid could have written that dont you know? Even though it is true, never EVER sight your sources from wikipedia Its "you're," not "your." A ten year old kid could have written that. If the statement was wrong, I could have just blamed it on wikipedia. Hellraiser 06-13-2007, 08:34 AM Hey, im from texas, and because of that i have the right to make up my damn words ya freakin yankee gussa 06-13-2007, 09:46 AM what did this topic start our as being again? Natus Lumen 06-13-2007, 01:38 PM Hey, im from texas, and because of that i have the right to make up my damn words ya freakin yankee Luke, you should have quit while you were ahead. You're giving Texans a bad name. Everyone else, I promise we aren't all that stupid. penicillin is obsolete at this point. They wouldn't need to give it to you anyways. Penacillin is like, a cheap anti-bacterial drug. They have stuff now that deal 4x the damage at twice the cost. I should hope so, but I know this girl who wears a bracelet that says she's allergic, and when I asked her about it, she said that was why. Penacillin is nothing more than an obsolete fungus (or is it a protist...?). It was obsolete thirteen years ago, when I (or, my parents, rather) found out I was allergic to it and I'm surprised that people still use it. gabrielwhist 06-13-2007, 10:31 PM Texans already have a bad name. At least where I live. And my dad, who used to go on bussiness trips there, says it is the worst place ever. Too hot, too many malls, too many dumb hicks. He even said that there was a starbucks across the street from another starbucks, but I am sure he was exaggerating. BTW, u seem pretty cool neverender, so sorry if I have offended you. Hellraiser, I hope I offended you, as you seem to be a stereotypical Texan ass. Drunken_Shinobi 06-13-2007, 10:57 PM Hellraiser is Neverender's friend, just telling you just so you can know. Natus Lumen 06-14-2007, 10:55 AM Texans already have a bad name. At least where I live. And my dad, who used to go on bussiness trips there, says it is the worst place ever. Too hot, too many malls, too many dumb hicks. He even said that there was a starbucks across the street from another starbucks, but I am sure he was exaggerating. BTW, u seem pretty cool neverender, so sorry if I have offended you. Hellraiser, I hope I offended you, as you seem to be a stereotypical Texan ass. Hellraiser lives within about five miles of me...anyway, that's besides the point. Texas is really like it's own country (and we actually do have a right to be separate from the rest of the U.S. if we wanted to/thought we could): it really depends on where you go. If you live in or around Austin, you're in one of the coolest places in America. Property values downtown are the second-highest in the U.S., and LA is first, because of such high demand. Most of the dumb Texan hicks hate Austin and live around Houston and Dallas. Actually, Hellraiser's parents are dumb hicks (j/k) so...let's just say it's a diverse place. Lots of really cool people, lots of not so cool people. And yes, there are a LOT of Starbucks, it is hot, but we only have about four malls in Austin, two of which are small and insignificant. Houston has a lot of malls though. No denying that. Dudeo 06-14-2007, 01:09 PM Texas is really like it's own country (and we actually do have a right to be separate from the rest of the U.S. if we wanted to/thought we could): it really depends on where you go. If you live in or around Austin, you're in one of the coolest places in America. Property values downtown are the second-highest in the U.S., and LA is first, because of such high demand. Most of the dumb Texan hicks hate Austin and live around Houston and Dallas. Actually, Hellraiser's parents are dumb hicks (j/k) so...let's just say it's a diverse place. Lots of really cool people, lots of not so cool people. Right. I live in New York (not the city). And I am aware that at one point, Texas was an independent nation. gabrielwhist 06-14-2007, 07:17 PM Hellraiser lives within about five miles of me...anyway, that's besides the point. Texas is really like it's own country (and we actually do have a right to be separate from the rest of the U.S. if we wanted to/thought we could): it really depends on where you go. If you live in or around Austin, you're in one of the coolest places in America. Property values downtown are the second-highest in the U.S., and LA is first, because of such high demand. Most of the dumb Texan hicks hate Austin and live around Houston and Dallas. Actually, Hellraiser's parents are dumb hicks (j/k) so...let's just say it's a diverse place. Lots of really cool people, lots of not so cool people. And yes, there are a LOT of Starbucks, it is hot, but we only have about four malls in Austin, two of which are small and insignificant. Houston has a lot of malls though. No denying that. Hehe. I was my dad probably went to Houston then, and that is probably also where my information and stereotypes of Texans come from. Natus Lumen 06-14-2007, 11:49 PM If you go to any other country in the world (that doesn't speak English) nobody will know what you're talking about when you say 'Texas' unless you say, 'Texas bang bang' and make a gun with your hand and pretend to be riding a horse. MrNaPaLm32 06-15-2007, 02:28 AM If you go to any other country in the world (that doesn't speak English) nobody will know what you're talking about when you say 'Texas' unless you say, 'Texas bang bang' and make a gun with your hand and pretend to be riding a horse.Texas wasn't a real shoot-em-up state...At least as much as the others were. diet poop 06-15-2007, 02:29 AM If you go to any other country in the world (that doesn't speak English) nobody will know what you're talking about when you say 'Texas' unless you say, 'Texas bang bang' and make a gun with your hand and pretend to be riding a horse. This should be cast in stone. MrNaPaLm32 06-15-2007, 04:30 AM I should hope so, but I know this girl who wears a bracelet that says she's allergic, and when I asked her about it, she said that was why. Penacillin is nothing more than an obsolete fungus (or is it a protist...?). It was obsolete thirteen years ago, when I (or, my parents, rather) found out I was allergic to it and I'm surprised that people still use it.I'm really not sure what it is, and I'm too lazy to look it up. They use it bacuase A. Its cheap B. Its easy to make C. IT works. Axel 06-15-2007, 04:44 AM Your an idiot a 10 year old kid could have written that dont you know? Even though it is true, never EVER sight your sources from wikipedia You're* cite* If you're going to call him a 10 year-old, at least try not to contradict yourself. Heyyou27 06-15-2007, 05:24 AM You're* cite* If you're going to call him a 10 year-old, at least try not to contradict yourself. wuld u liek 2 tuch mi penis? gussa 06-15-2007, 09:45 AM omg u ghey fagg0t n00 you h0m0 o.o Hellraiser 06-15-2007, 11:48 AM Other than the fact that i can't spell for the love of moses, i am not a hick. And I a have lived in Colorado as long as i lived in Texas, i have met some DUMB ppl from Colorado, so i know its not only Texas. And if you think Texas is bad enjoy a trip to Louisiana. And Austin is the coolest place in Texas, it is pretty much the opposite of the Stereotype of Texas. Heyyou27 06-15-2007, 01:29 PM Other than the fact that i can't spell for the love of moses, i am not a hick. And I a have lived in Colorado as long as i lived in Texas, i have met some DUMB ppl from Colorado, so i know its not only Texas. And if you think Texas is bad enjoy a trip to Louisiana. And Austin is the coolest place in Texas, it is pretty much the opposite of the Stereotype of Texas.There are dumb people in every part of the world. Drunken_Shinobi 06-16-2007, 01:10 AM Then there are parts of the world where there are a lot of dumb people. grant.a06 06-16-2007, 11:03 AM Anarchy is cool in movies... but not for real. Drunken_Shinobi 06-16-2007, 05:17 PM Anarchy isn't cool at all...period. gabrielwhist 06-16-2007, 06:16 PM The one good thing about anarchy would be that we could kill idiots, like the .06's with no reprocussions. Natus Lumen 06-16-2007, 08:08 PM I would like to take the first few words of this post to tell '.06 to shut the fuck up. Thank you. I would like to take the second few words of this post to tell Heyyou that seckshual m013stashun is strongly discouraged on gprime. Go get a room. Or, rather, go to the IRC chat. Texas has a lot of smart people. There are a lot of research labs, a lot of capitalists and a lot of people who don't oppose the death penalty. Point proven. All the other states are mediocre, inferior, and talk funny. Texas is widely known as a cowboy state, largely due to the football team, Clint Eastwood, and John Wayne. Cowboys were notorious for typically carrying guns and shooting 'injuns' from horseback. There are places like Nevada that have probably had more of a history of gun-violence than Texas, but we remain the world's stereotype for riding around on horses, playing our git-tars, shaving with keen-edged knives and being in a constant state of hot weather. I assure all of you that Texas is just as modern a place as any other state, some parts even moreso. Zetex 06-16-2007, 08:10 PM Testifyyyyyyyyyyy gabrielwhist 06-17-2007, 12:05 AM I would like to take the first few words of this post to tell '.06 to shut the fuck up. Thank you. I would like to take the second few words of this post to tell Heyyou that seckshual m013stashun is strongly discouraged on gprime. Go get a room. Or, rather, go to the IRC chat. Texas has a lot of smart people. There are a lot of research labs, a lot of capitalists and a lot of people who don't oppose the death penalty. Point proven. All the other states are mediocre, inferior, and talk funny. Texas is widely known as a cowboy state, largely due to the football team, Clint Eastwood, and John Wayne. Cowboys were notorious for typically carrying guns and shooting 'injuns' from horseback. There are places like Nevada that have probably had more of a history of gun-violence than Texas, but we remain the world's stereotype for riding around on horses, playing our git-tars, shaving with keen-edged knives and being in a constant state of hot weather. I assure all of you that Texas is just as modern a place as any other state, some parts even moreso. America is a capatalist nation. Anyone who isn't a capatalist should get the fuck out. The gun fights, git-tars, and keen-edged knives are what the majority of America likes about Texas. What America doesn't like about Texas is that it is an overly Republican state. Also, we other states don't like to be told we are mediocre and inferior, by a bunch of funny talking hicks. Also, to say we other states are mediocre and inferior is kind of contradictory since inferior is below average and mediocre is average. MrNaPaLm32 06-17-2007, 04:36 AM lame |